Having re-read my earlier post on the origins of our Dublin Williams family, I've decided to re-write it in a tidier form, along with additional information and clarifications kindly sent on to me by Dr. David Williams, a descendant of Sir Robert Williams, the 9th Baronet of Penrhyn.

Firstly, I was under the impression that the Williams of Penrhyn were associated with the town of Carnarvon, but this is incorrect.  The family was linked, rather, to the town of Conwy or Conway (now in the County Borough of Conwy), and in particular, to Pen-yr-allt, which is just beyond Conway on the North Wales coast.  Pen-yr-allt is believed to have been the birthplace of the merchant tailor, Roger Williams, and was given to him on the death of his father, Sir Griffith Williams, the 1st Baronet.  (Note: I've decided to use the Anglicised spellings of Welsh names and places.)

Sir Griffith Williams, 1st Baronet of Penrhyn, and Gwen Bodwrda:
Sir Griffith Williams, the son of Robert Williams of Conway and of Elizabeth Griffith, inherited Penrhyn from his unmarried uncle, who died intestate in 1650, Archbishop John Williams of York, who had earlier purchased both Cochwillan, the seat of his ancestors, and Penrhyn, the seat of the Griffiths family. Sir Griffiths Williams later erected a memorial for the Archbishop in the parish church of Llandegai near Bangor.

Sir Griffith Williams (circa 1603 - 1663) married Gwen Bodurda (other spellings -Bodwrda/Bodwrdda) of Bodwrda near Aberdaron, in the modern County of Gwynedd, about 50 miles south of Conwy.
Griffith Williams was created a baronet in 1658 by Cromwell and by Charles II in 1661.
Gwen Williams gave birth to 19 children; the baptisms of some of them appear in the Conway Parish Register which has been published to the internet on Google Books.

1627 - 'Elin Wys filia Gruffin Wys et Gwen mater eius undecimo Octobris.'

1629 - 'Dorithe Willms the daughter of Gruffith Willms and Gwen for mother the 29 of ffebr 1629.'

1632 - 'Katherine Wyms the daughter of Gruff Wyms and Gwen her mother the xxii Januarie/.'

1639 - 'William and Gruffith the sonnes of Gruff:Williams, gent., by Gwen Bodwrda, his wife, were baptised the 6th day of Aprille 1639.'

1640 - Gaynor duur to Gr Williams gen. et Gwen his (sic) mother xviiii u 1640.'

The baptism of the  couple's son, Roger Williams, from whom our Irish branch of this family descends, was recorded in 1645 - 'Roger Wms the son of Gruff. Wms the 24 Junii.'

Other children were the eldest son, Sir Robert Williams, later the 2nd baronet; Hugh Williams, born in 1628, who became Sir Hugh Williams, the 5th Baronet of Penrhyn; Edmund, date unclear; John Williams, born 1643;  a daughter Grace, born circa 1653 - 1658, and Elizabeth, date unknown.

At the time of Sir Griffith William's death in 1663,  there were only five sons still living - Robert, Hugh, Edmund, John and our Roger.

Gwen, the widow of Sir Griffith Williams, died in 1674, and the burial was recorded in the Conway Parish Register - 'Domine Gwenna Williams uxor Griggi: Williams Barti 12 Novembris.'

Roger Williams and Mary Curtiss:
Upon the death of his father in 1663, Roger Williams, the fifth son, inherited the family property of Pen-yr-allt near Conway, along with the neighbouring Tal-y-cafn ferry. These were inherited later by Roger's own son, rev. Griffith Williams, the Rector of North Runcton in Norfolk, who passed them on to his only child, Mary Williams;  she sold the ferry to her relation, Sir Hugh Williams, the 8th Baronet, who was the grandson of Roger Williams' older brother, Edmund Williams of Eirianws.
(Tal-y-cafn means 'place opposite the ferry-boat';  there had been a ferry here since about 1301, which provided a crossing-point for the River Conwy.)

Roger Williams was a merchant tailor being admitted to livery in London on 16 October 1674 (his master being William Saunders) and to freedom on 29 July 1668. He was removed from livery by warrant of King James II dated 17 February 1687.
He lived in the Fleet Street area of the city.
I stated in an earlier post that Roger was also later employed as an officer of the customs, but I think this is highly doubtful.

Roger Williams married Mary the daughter of Norton Curtis Esq., of Morden in Surrey, just south of London.  They married in 1674, the same year that Roger was admitted to the Merchant Taylors guild. The registers for the parish church of Morden have been published to the internet and show up the marriage entry for Roger and Mary:
    'Roger Williams of St. Bride, London, widower, and Mary Curtis, spinster, about 25, who consents - at Morden, Battersea or Lambeth, Co. Surrey,  15th June 1674.'

(Also from the Morden Registers:  George, son of Norton Curteise and Mary, was baptised 1673; William, son of Norton and Mary, was baptised 3rd. February 1677; Edward was baptised 8th December 1679;  Norton Curteis, gentleman, died 1700.)

The children of Roger and Mary Williams were -
Rev. Griffith Williams, baptised 8th July 1675, Church of St. Bride, Fleet Street, London. Died 1718, North Runcton, Norfolk.
William Williams, baptised 26th July 1677, Church of St. Bride, Fleet Street, London. ( We are said to descend from William Williams, who was the father of Richard of Leighton Buzzard.)
Roger Williams of Blackfriars or Shoreditch, London – born 1679. (The name 'Roger' does not recur in our line later - this is why I'm discounting him as a direct ancestor. For now.)
Ann Williams, baptised 8th April 1681, Church of St. Bride, Fleet Street, London.
Gwen Williams, baptised 26th April 1682, Church of St. Bride, Fleet Street, London.

Rev. Griffith Williams (1675 - 1718):
Dr. David Williams passed on plenty of information on Roger's eldest son, Rev. Griffith Williams.

The admissions records for Trinity,Cambridge show up information for the Rev. Griffith Williams, son of Roger Williams:
   
Entered: 1693; Adm. pens. (age 18) at TRINITY, June 28, 1693. S. of Roger. B. in London. School, Westminster. Matric. 1693; Scholar, 1694; B.A. 1696-7; M.A. 1700; B.D. 1708. Fellow, 1699. Ord. deacon (Lincoln) Mar. 12, 1703-4; priest (Ely) May 19, 1706. R. of North Runcton, Norfolk, 1715-8. Died Jan. 8, 1718.

Rev. Griffith Williams was ordained as a deacon on 12th March 1704 by the Bishop of Lincoln, James Gardiner;  on 19th May 1706, he was ordained as a priest by Simon Patrick, the Bishop of Ely, and was appointed as Rector to the parish of North Runcton in Norfolk on 18th April 1712 by Charles Trimmell, the Bishop of Norwich.

He married Ann Purland who had been born  May 19, 1698, and who was only 19 when her husband died in 1718.  She had a young daughter, Mary Williams (born circa 1716/1717), who inherited the family estate of Pen-yr-allt and the Tal-y-cafn ferry from her father.
The widowed Mary Williams, née Purland, went on to marry Griffith William's successor, Rev. Edward Rud, whose diary has been published to the net. The following passages describe his courtship of Ann Williams, at the house of her parents, Rev. Robert Purland, Vicar of East Walton and Vicar of Southacre, and Ursula Purland:

' (1719) May 14, when I went back to North-Rungton to lodge at Mrs. Williams’ house there: where I was received with such exceeding great civility and respect, especially by the Father and Mother, but I could not but suppose there was a meaning in it; and therefor soon began to proceed accordingly. The young widow was born May 19, 1698. I began to open a little May 18 being Whitsun-Monday.

 (1719) May 30. The young widow gave me a sort of promise that she would marry me; but June 5, we were formally contracted in verbis de præsenti, before her mother.

(1720) Jan. 20. I was marry’d at Walton to Mrs. Ann Williams, my Predecessor’s widow, by Mr. James Everard, Vicar of Middleton.'

Dr.David Williams came across an interesting connection here.  Ann Purland's father, Rev. Robert Purland, had been appointed to the post of Vicar of East Walton by Sir William Barkham, 2nd Baronet of Southacre Hall.  The 1st Baronet of Southacre was Sir Edward Barkham, whose daughter, Frances Barkham, was the second wife of Sir Robert Williams, the 2nd Baronet of Penrhyn.  Sir Robert Williams was, of course, the uncle of Rev. Griffith Williams.

Rev. Griffith Williams was commemorated with a plaque in the parish church of North Runcton: ' Gules, a chevron ermine between three Saracens’ heads, couped at the shoulders, in profile (Williams); impaling five wings in saltire, or (Purland), for “Rev. Griffith Williams S.T.B., Fellow of Trinity College, Cambridge, Rector of this Church, who died Jan. 8, 1718”.

His daughter and heiress, Mary, was under guardianship of Thomas Peirson of North Runcton; he made his will there in 1731.  A deed exists in the UK National Archives which mentions them both, also alludes to the Williams' Conway properties:

'Conveyed to Thomas Wright by his mother on his marriage 1641 and passed via John Elgar to John and Elizabeth Exton in 1695. With receipt from Thomas Peirson, guardian of Mary Williams, for deeds of Gryffith Williams' estates in Caernarvonshire and North Runcton 1732. Bundle also includes conveyance of a close of 5a in N. Runcton abutting Townesend Lane and Broadgate Way by trustees to Richard Holden 1658; and fine between Sir Snelling Thomas querent and Elizabeth Jefferyes and Henry and Anne Parr deforcients concerning messuage, orchard and land in North Runcton, Terrington St. Clement and Tilney, 1720.)'

Mary Williams was still living in 1764, but her date of death is unknown.

Richard Williams and Mary Hutchins of Leighton Buzzard:
Richard Williams was believed to be the son of William Williams, the third son of Roger Williams of Fleet St. and Conway, North Wales.  He had been born on 17th July 1719 in Carnarvon County - this information was provided by an earlier ancestor, Richard Palmer Williams, who did research in the 1860's into this. The place of birth may not be accurate, given that his branch of the family had already settled in London.

Richard Williams, by his coat of arms, handed down on his seal — viz. crest: a Saracen's head erased; the arms: gules, a chevron ermine, between three Saxons' heads couped; quarterly, with gules, a chevron argent between three stags' heads cabossed; motto: "Heb Dduw heb ddim, Duw a digon," shows him to have been of the ancient family of Williams of Penrhyn, Cochwillan, and Meillionydd, co. Carnarvon.
Dr. David Williams recently provided me with excellent explanatory information on his family coat of arms and motto: 'The heads are often described as “Saracen’s heads” or “Saxons’ Heads”, which is incorrect; they are more properly three “Englishmen’s heads”, and in Welsh Y Pen Sais (The Englishman’s Head) is the crest without the armorial bearings. The crest above the shield is a stag’s head. The motto Heb Dduw heb ddim, Duw a digon is usually rendered as Without God nothing, with God everything.
The legend is that our ancestor Ednyfed Fychan (d.1246), seneschal to the princes of Gwynedd, slew three Englishmen at the battle of Chester c.1210 and laid their severed heads at the feet of prince Llywelyn II ab Iorwerth. But the severed head goes back to ancient British times, and is said to have been the emblem of his 9th century ancestor Marchudd ap Cynan. There are several variants among some of the North Wales families.'

Richard Williams married Mary Hutchins in the Church of St. Mary Magdalene, Whipsnade, Bedford (near Leighton Buzzard) on 9th April 1740.  Mary Hutchins had been born on February 18th 1713.  It had been suggested that she may have been the daughter of Sir George Hutchins, a prominent English lawyer who had been the Keeper of The Great Seal and who died in 1705, but clearly the dates don't add up for this to be possible. (I've done research into Sir George and his family and failed to find a convincing connection.) She was most likely the daughter of a John and Elizabeth Hutchins of Leighton Buzzard - the births of several of their children appear on the LDS website.

The children of Richard and Mary Williams of Leighton Buzzard were as follows:
Hutchins Williams, from whom we descend, born 26th December 1740 in Leighton Buzzard.
John Williams born 29th September 1742 in Leighton Buzzard.
William Williams born 31st March 1746 in Leighton Buzzard.
Thomas Williams born 30th December 1747 in Leighton Buzzard.
Richard Williams born 29th December 1749 in Leighton Buzzard.
Mary Williams born 12th September 1751 in Leighton Buzzard.
Watkin William Williams born 28th December 1753 in Leighton Buzzard.
Watkin Win Williams born 1761 in Leighton Buzzard.

Hutchins, the oldest son, was the father of John Jeffery Williams of Grays Inn, Holborn.  John Jeffery Williams was the father of John Dignan Williams, William Williams, Thomas Hutchins Williams, Sarah Williams, and our great-great grandfather, Richard Williams of 17 Eden Quay.

Thomas Williams, the fourth son, was the first secretary of the Bank of Ireland; his two sons, Richard and Charles Wye, founded the City of Dublin Steam Packet Company in 1823.  Hutchins Thomas Williams, who worked with Richard in finance on Dame St., may have been a third son of Thomas and his wife, Mary Ann Quin.
Thomas moved to Dublin where he seems to have worked for a time in the textile industry before entering the bank - a Dublin deed involving him was witnessed in 1782 by a Watkin Wynn Williams, who must have been the youngest son of Richard Williams and Mary Hutchins of Leighton Buzzard. (Watkin Wynn Williams is not a common name in Ireland!)
Thomas Williams' nephew, William Williams, was admitted as a merchant to the Freedom of Dublin in 1817 - this was the son of one of his brothers. It is known that his older brother, Hutchins Williams of Hillingden, had a son, William, who had been born in 1774 in Hillingden.  (ie: the brother of John Jeffery Williams of Grays Inn, Holborn.)  Given the recycling of family names at that time, however, all of Thomas Williams' brothers probably had a son named William!

(Thomas William's grandson, Richard Palmer Williams, was under the impression that his grandfather, Thomas Williams, was the son of William, the third son of Richard Williams of Leighton Buzzard.  I believe he may have this point wrong - his grandfather, Thomas, married Mary Ann Quin in Dublin in 1777, and William Williams had been born a mere 31 years previously;  this genealogical feat would only be possible if both men had married at age 15, and that's not really plausible.)

I will add to this post as I discover more. The following link leads to the Index of Williams posts:
http://alison-stewart.blogspot.com/p/index-to-williams-posts.html

Researching this post has been a nightmare!  These people are so interconnected and bewildering that it's taken FOREVER to figure them out.
However, the Woolsey/Palmer conglomeration had stronger links to our Williams/Willis family than I had at first thought, so it had to be done.
I've tried to make this entry logical and easy to comprehend, but it really isn't. My apologies.

Rev. William Woolsey (1750 -1832) and  Mary Anne Bellingham:
Rev. William Woolsey was the only son of John Woolsey and Lucy Palmer. (Lucy was said to be the daughter of Rev. Richard Palmer, but I currently believe this to be an error. I suspect she was the daughter of Rev. George Palmer of Kenmare, who was the reverend of  Kilsaran parish, Castlebellingham, 1722 - 1723.  She would therefore be the sister of George Palmer, an early governor of the Bank of Ireland.)
Rev. William Woolsey had a sister, Frances Woolsey who must have been born much later than him, probably to a stepmother.

William Woolsey's married his first wife, Mary Anne Bellingham, in 1777 - she was the daughter of Colonel Alan Bellingham.
The second wife of Rev.William Woolsey was Bridget O'Neill, who he married in St. Peter's, Dublin (date unknown) - this was witnessed by Richard Palmer, and Susanna Davis. (I found this on Irish Genealogy.)
Rev. William Woolsey spent some time with the 61st Regiment, before becoming the rector of Kilsaran Parish, Castlebellingham;  he lived at Priorland House in Dundalk.

The children of Rev. William Woolsey and Mary Anne Bellingham:

1. Alice Woolsey who married Richard Moore of Summerhill, Tipperary.

2. Lucy Woolsey who died unmarried.

3. Frances Woolsey, who married her relative, Richard Palmer. 'Burkes Genealogical and Heraldic History, Vol. 2' states that Frances Woolsey was the daughter of John Woolsey of Castlebellingham; other records state that she was the daughter of Rev. William Woolsey which seems much more plausible mostly because John Woolsey died in 1852, and Frances would have been born circa 1778 - her husband, Richard Palmer, had been born in this year. All the genealogies maintain that the bride and groom were cousins, but I've been so far unable to ascertain how this could be.    Her grandmother, Lucy Palmer, was, however, the paternal aunt of Richard Palmer, being the sister of his father, George Palmer of the Bank of Ireland.

4. Mary Anne Woolsey (died 24 Sep 1865) who married William Elliot Cairnes. They were cousins.

5. Elizabeth Sophia Woolsey married, on 28th September 1815,  James Jameson, son of the Scot, John Jameson, who founded the famous distillery in Dublin.

6. Captain John Woolsey (b. 6 Jan 1772, d. 1 Aug 1835) married, on 30th March 1812,  Janet Jameson, sister of James and daughter of John.
Notes on the Jameson Family:  John Jameson was the founder of the famous Dublin Distillery. He had been born in Alloa, Scotland, and married Margaret Haig in 1768. They had the following children:
  a) Robert Jameson (1771 - 1847). He was the Sub-Sheriff of Clackmannanshire and died unmarried.
  b) John Jameson, (born 1771), of Prussia St, Dublin. He married Isabella Stein. One of his sons, James, married Lucy Cairnes of Stameen, Co. Meath. The Cairnes family intermarried with the Bellingham and Woolsey families, and entered into the brewery business with the Woolseys. Another son, William, married Elizabeth Guinness, the daughter of Arthur Guinness of Beaumont.
  c)  William Jameson (1777 - 1822) of Merrion Square, Dublin.
  d) James Jameson who married Elizabeth Sophia Woolsey on 17th July 1816. He succeeded his older brother, William, as the director of the Marrowbone Lane Distillery in Dublin.  He bought the estates of Windfield, Co. Galway, and Mont Rose, Co. Dublin. James was a Director of the Bank of Ireland.  Upon his death in 1847, he was succeeded at his Windfield estate by his eldest son, Rev. John Jameson.
  e) Andrew Jameson, born 1783.
  f) Margaret Jameson married, in 1801, William Robert Prendergast.
  g) Helen Jameson died unmarried.
  h) Anne Jameson married Major Francis Stupart of the Scots Greys.
  i) Janet Jameson, the youngest daughter, married the brewer, Captain John Woolsey, of Milestone.

Captain John Woolsey was the High Sheriff of Louth in 1826, and was the founder of the brewery in Castlebellingham which employed about 70 people there. He was an early shareholder in the Dublin Steam Packet Company which had been co-founded by Richard Williams of Drumcondra Castle. The children of Captain John Woolsey and Janet Jameson were:
  a)  Mary Anne Woolsey (1813 - 1881) who married Major John Simmons Smith in 1836.
  b) John Woolsey (1815 - 1819).
  c)  Margaret Woolsey (1816 - 1877), married to Rev. Charles Thornhill.
  d)  William Woolsey (1818 - 1887) married twice, first to Frances Rose Vesey, then to Mary Elizabeth Heath Jary. He ran the brewery with his younger brother John.
  e)  Helen Jameson Woolsey (1819 - 1908).
  f)  Robert Jameson Woolsey (1821 - 1838).
  g) Frances Hester Bellingham Woolsey (1823 - 1838).
  h)  Major General O'Brien Bellingham Woolsey (1827 - 1910).
  i)  John Woolsey (1830 - 1887).  He ran the family brewing business along with his older brother, William, and married his cousin, Elizabeth Lucy Willis. They lived at Castle Cosey, Castlebellingham.
    'In memory of William Woolsey of Milestone, died 11th May 1887, aged 68 years, and his brother, John Woolsey, of Castle Cosey, Castlebellingham, who died 23rd May 1887 aged 56 years. This tablet has been erected in loving remembrance by their employees.'

7. Thomas Woolsey (b. 1784, d. Sep 1834)  married Elizabeth Gibson. The children of Thomas Woolsey and Elizabeth Gibson were all born in London, where Thomas was working in the Admiralty, and baptised in the Old Church, St. Pancras -
William Woolsey, baptised 16th November 1814.
Mary Anne Woolsey, later wife of Henry de Laval Willis, born 4th August 1817.
Elizabeth Lucy Woolsey, born 26 August 1821.  (In July 1856, Elizabeth Lucy married, in St. Pancras, London, Thepphilus Moon of HM's Customs. From Limerick Chronicle.)
Thomas Frederic Woolsey, born 2nd Dec 1823.
Sophia Woolsey, born 21st Feb.1828.)

Rev. Henry de Laval Willis married Thomas' daughter, Mary Anne, in Kilsaran, Co. Louth, on October 16th 1841.   Henry de Laval Willis was the cousin of Geraldine O'Moore Creighton who married Richard Williams of Eden Quay - Richard Williams was closely related to Richard Williams of Drumcondra Castle who married Anne Palmer.

The children of Rev. Henry de Laval Willis and Mary Anne Woolsey were:
Frances Hester Bellingham Willis, born Limerick, 17th December 1842. (She would later marry, in 1861,  John Walker of Bolling Hall, Yorkshire.)
Elizabeth Lucy Willis, born 1844.
Henry Thomas Gilbert Willis, born St. Mary's, Lancaster, in 1849.
Francis William Willis, born in Bradford, York, England, on 23rd February 1851.

The daughter of Rev. Henry de Laval Willis and Mary Anne Woolsey, Elizabeth Lucy Willis (1844 - 1870), married yet another member of the Woolsey brewing family, John Woolsey, who was the son of Capt. John Woolsey and Janet Jameson.

8. Commander William Woolsey (b. 1785, d. Sep 1805) who died at sea onboard HMS Papillon of which he was the captain.

9. O'Bryen Bellingham Woolsey (b. c 1792, d. 16 Jan 1874) who married Emily Holt of London - they had  no children; he was the Accountant-General of the Admiralty.

Woolsey/Palmer Leases:
Milestone House and Estate, 1871 - 'Lease dated 2nd June 1824, made between Anne Palmer, widow of George Palmer of the first part; the Rev. Daniel Palmer and George Fortescue Palmer of the 2nd part; and John Woolsey of Castlebellingham of the 3rd part;  for the lives of William Woolsey, eldest son of John Woolsey, the lessee, then aged about 6 years;  Robert Jameson Woolsey,second son of said John Woolsey, then aged about 3 years;  and John Jameson, eldest son of James Jameson of Harcourt-street in the City of Dublin, then aged about 8 years, and the survivor or survivors of them, for the term of 61 years, from the 1st May 1824 at the yearly rent of £526  9s. 6d....'
   Comments on the above, dated 1871:  'There are but two of the three lives in this lease now in being, namely, Wm.Woolsey, Esquire, the present tenant, who is now about 53 years of age, according to the statement in the lease, and the Reverend John Jameson, who is now about 55 years of age,  according to the statement in the lease, and of the term of years there are about 14 years left to run.'

Let me try and explain the above 1824 lease - Anne Palmer was the widow of George Palmer of the Bank of Ireland;  she died in 1830 at home in French St, Dublin.  Her father was Daniel Bickerton of Milestone, Castlebellingham and it was through her that Milestone entered the Woolsey family. Her son was Rev. Daniel Palmer, whose son was named George Fortescue Palmer, both of whom were named in the lease.
Anne Palmer was the widow of George Palmer (of the Bank etc.) whose aunt, Lucy Palmer, was the mother of Rev. William Woolsey.
The John Woolsey mentioned above was Captain John Woolsey (his parents were Rev. William Woolsey and Mary Ann Bellingham)  who was married to Janet Jameson, hence the name of his son, Robert Jameson Woolsey.

Also:  'Fee farm grant, dated 24th February 1826, made between Anne Palmer, widow, of the 1st part;  the Right Honorable and Most Reverend Lord John George Archbishop of the Diocese of Armagh, of the 2nd part;  and the Rev. William Woolsey, minister of the parish of Kilsaran, of the 3rd part, of a plot of ground part of the lands of Milestone, containing one rood, Irish plantation measure, or thereabouts, to be hold to the said minister and his successors forever, in trust for the use of a resident schoolmaster.  The grant provides for the appointment of a schoolmaster and the conduct of a school, and contains a covenant that the sum of £203 would be expended on the erection of a house of residence on said lands for such schoolmaster, and with suitable accommodation for the convenient instruction of scholars to be taught at such a school.'
(The tenant in 1871 was the Rev. Robert Le P. M'Clintock.)

A deed concerning the property named Woottenstown or Wottonstown, Louth: 'Lease dated 25th January 1848 made between George Fortescue Palmer, of the 1st part; Richard Palmer of the 2nd part; George Palmer of the 3rd part; Bickarton Palmer of the 4th part; and John Woolsey of Milestown, Esquire,  in the County of Louth, of the 5th part, for the lives of William Woolsey, eldest son of said John Woolsey, the lessee, and the Reverend John Jameson of Lancaster, clerk, eldest son of James Jameson, then late of Montrose in the County of Dublin, esquire, deceased, and the survivor of them,  or for the term of 37 years and 6 months from the 1st of November 1847, at the yearly rent of £269 11s...'
  (In 1871, as before, only William Woolsey and John Jameson were still alive.)

And a quick explanation - George Fortescue Palmer was the son of Rev. Daniel Palmer, who was the son of the governor of the Bank of Ireland, George Palmer, and of Anne Bickerton.
Richard Palmer was also the son of George of the Bank etc., and brother of Anne Palmer who married Richard Williams of Drumcondra Castle;  he was also the brother of Rev.Daniel Palmer.
Bickerton Palmer was Bickerton William Palmer, born 24th May 1822, to Richard Palmer and his wife, Frances Woolsey.
George Palmer was another brother of Richard Palmer, both of them being merchants of French St in Dublin.




   

Viscount Henri Robert d'Ully de Laval settled in Portarlington, Co. Laois, following his escape from catholic France at the end of the 17th century.  His great granddaughter, Deborah Charlotte Newcombe, married Thomas Willis, schoolmaster of Portarlington. We directly descend from Thomas and his first wife, Betty Foster.

Henri Robert d'Ully de Laval and his wife, Magdaleine de Schelandre, being Huguenot, experienced persecution and imprisonment following the revocation of The Edict of Nantes in 1685 and spent several years in and out of separate jails. Two of their sons were born in prison.  The following letter, written by the Viscount from his prison cell to his family in 1689, was translated from the French original by Sir Erasmus Borrowes and published in, I believe, 'The Ulster Journal of Archaeology, Vol. 111'.   The letter was written towards the end of his final stay in prison, before he left France for Portarlington where the Laval family finally settled in 1695.

'Guise, 2nd April 1689. My dear children, when I spoke to you at the commencement of this letter of my captivity, I told you that it continued still with great inconveniences really insupportable, to the extent that I had lost all hope of ever seeing you again (of which my persecutors wished to convince me) unless I made you return to prison, assuring me that this was the only means to restore myself to liberty. But God was so merciful to me (notwithstanding the torments they inflicted on me) as to enable me to refuse compliance with a condition so cruel, and so prejudicial to your eternal salvation. You were too happy in leaving such a sink of vice, that I should consent to plunge you into it again, by a cowardice unworthy of the name and profession of a Christian, and of a Christian enlightened by the Divine mercy through the holy Gospel.

You know that I was arrested by the police of Soissons on the 17th of August, and conducted into the prisons of Verneuil; and this was for being accused, as formerly was St. Paul, for the hope of Israel, - that is to say, for holding the name of God in the purity and the simplicity that it pleased him to reveal to us in his word, a crime which in France at present is esteemed the most fearful, and visited with punishments the most severe.  This was the reason that I was so strictly guarded in a place most disagreeable and incommodious, in which I was nearly smothered by different types of animals, and where there was not even room to arrange a bed.  I was not there long before I fell ill, and I beheld myself abandoned by the whole world. I heard from my friends, for it was not permitted to them to see me. But persons, who presented themselves for the purpose of annoying me, had all license for doing so, and of such people, there were only too many to be found.  Even your poor mother saw me but rarely and with the greatest difficulty, which obliged her, though very inconvenient from the approach of her accouchement, to make a journey to Soissons in order to try and obtain from our Intendant the favour that she should be allowed to take care of me in my illness and that some kind of liberty should be afforded to me.  Fearing that I would not survive for any length of time in such a miserable place, she offered to remain in prison herself in my place for some time;  but they were inexorable to her prayers, and she returned without having obtained anything.

You can imagine what was her sorrow and grief; however the good God...bestowed on me strength and vigour to vanquish that illness, notwithstanding the hardships I had to bear.  Thus, at the end of twelve days, I found myself a little better, which made your mother resolve to make a secret journey into her country in order to receive some arrears that her father-in-law owed us, the term of payment being past;  and this is what has been partly the cause of all my sufferings, and of our having so long deferred following you.  He wished for nothing so much as that some obstacle should present itself to prevent him from paying this money;  accordingly, he decided that the authority which I had given to your mother to receive that sum, was not sufficient, because it had been drawn up in prison, and that a man, in the situation in which I was, could not legally negociate or authorise it. Thus she found she had made a useless journey;  and to fill up the measure of her misfortunes, she found on her return that, because it was not yet bad enough with me, they had transferred me from the prisons of Verneuil to those of Guise.

On the 27th Sept. (1688) the police of Laon had orders to come and remove me, and to conduct me to Guise. I was not quite recovered from illness;  however, I had to travel, and they tied me with many cords on a horse.  The officer who commanded the escort was an upright man, and had formerly conducted me to the prison of Sedan for the same cause of my religion.  He said that he was touched at my condition, and assured me that they only transferred me that I might be better;  but I well experienced the contrary.  He excused himself from the cruel and inhuman manner in which they treated me, making me understand how express his orders were, and to what an extent he was forced to obey them;  and as for me, he esteemed me only too happy to be suffering for the profession of the truth. All the population of the town came out into the streets to see me; they had, indeed, seen me many times in a similar condition, but not tied and bound with cords as I now was.  I was visited by many melancholy thoughts during the journey;  but never had anything so much afflicted me as, on arriving at Guise, to see a mob excited against me (who could do me no evil, because they were prevented) and heaping on me a thousand atrocious insults...

...they lodged me in the most frightful part of the tower, so far removed from the business of the world that I neither saw nor heard anything but the gaoler, who came a moment each day to see what I was doing.  I was two days and two nights without knowing if I was dead or alive, and consequently without dreaming of taking any nourishment...when I reflected that instead of lodging me better than  at Verneuil - as the officer who conducted me had made me hope - they now treated me with such rigour and inhumanity, it came into my head that they wished to make me a terrible example to the Reformed Christians in the Province...But God had not reserved for me so glorious a part as to seal His truth with my blood;  of which I became aware seven or eight days after, by the arrival at Guise of the Intendant, who I knew was favourable to me.

Your mother, the day after her return to Verneuil, set out to see me again.  God willed that her journey was so a propos that she preceded the Intendant two or three hours only, during which she could see me but for a moment...and only in the presence of a sergeant and four soldiers of the garrison, who attended her like a shadow.  She had a number of particulars to relate to me respecting the journey she had just made in her country, but as it was impossible for her to impart them to me, I could draw nothing from her except sighs and tears, which she poured forth in abundance. Her escort dragged her away against her will, for the poor creature would have taken it as a great favour if they had detained her as a prisoner along with myself.  This visit affected me much more deeply than any former one,  so that I should have wished very much not to have seen her.  Yet when the Intendant arrived, she besought him with so much determination, that he was compelled to yield to her importunity, so much so, that he permitted her not only to see me, but even to remain with me, and that too in a place a little less dreadful than that in which I had been, which they made me leave at once.

This change, so unexpected, and so agreeable to me that I regarded it as an interposition of Heaven was, I believe, rather the effect of necessity than the result of any kind disposition they might have felt towards me.   When I found myself in her society, and out of that detestable place, I seemed to have entered another world.  All my unhappiness was now for my poor wife, who every moment expected her accouchment;  she would willingly have been a captive for my sake, courageously despising all the inconveniences which she would meet with in a place where she would have nothing but solitude.  This was one great cause of sorrow;  although this was not the first time that by divine permission she was placed in a similar position, though more inconvenient.  In fact, you know that two years ago her accouchment took place in the prison of Sedan, she having been dragged from her bed  (which from illness she had not left for six months) to be brought there.  By the goodness of God, she now, at the end of three weeks, notwithstanding all these miseries and calamities, brought into the world another fine boy, by whom the number of your brothers is again augmented.

After I had been in prison seven months, they thought themselves obliged to bring my trial on, and for that purpose, on the last of January (1689);  the police of Soissons brought me to the prison of Laon, to which place the Intendant arranged that the witnesses, along with the President, should go.  With all these forms it was on the 27th of March that I was confronted with the witnesses, who had not much to say against me.  I was kept before the bar for more than two hours to render an account of my faith and of what I was accued of, and particularly your flight, which they positively wished me to remedy by your return, although I had always borne witness that it was not in my power to do so.  They exhibited an Order of Council which commanded the Intendant to treat me with all the rigour of the law.  God gave me grace to reply to all their questions according to the promptings of my conscience, and boldly to confess the truth which we at one time so feebly defended...sentence was pronounced that, as an expiation of my pretended crimes, I was still to remain in prison for six months - a sentence which was considered very favourable...

...I am much indebted to Monsieur and Mademoiselle de Lussi who were most kind to me, and whom I shall remember with gratitude all my life.  (The de Lussi family were cousins of the Lavals.)  At present I have more license for writing than ever. May it please God to preserve us to the end of this persecution, to shield us from the storm and the tempest, and to conduct us by his goodness to the haven of salvation.'

I'm currently exploring the links between Thomas Williams of the Bank of Ireland and Castlebellingham, Co. Louth.  It's complicated and I'll add more as I find it.

Thomas Williams, father of Charles Wye Williams and Richard Williams of Drumcondra Castle, married Mary Ann Quin/Quine in St. Thomas's, Dublin, in 1777.  The ceremony was performed by a Rev. Wye, who I believe to be Charles Wye of Co. Louth.  The records of St.Thomas's reveal that no rector by the name of 'Wye' worked there at any time during its history, therefore he must surely have been specially requested by the bride and groom. I've discovered no other clergymen by this name, other than Rev. Charles Wye and several members of the same family.  Rev. Wye married  an Arthur Ormsby and Ann Ashe on the same day, but I've yet to discover who they were.
It appears that Charles Wye Williams, the second son of Thomas and Mary Ann, was named after Rev. Charles Wye, which seems to suggest that there must have been a close relationship between the two families somehow.

Notes on the Wye Family:
The grandfather of Charles Wye was Gilbert Wye of Co. Antrim. (He also owned property in Killiney, Co. Dublin.) Gilbert Wye was a burgess of Belfast and steward to the Earl of Donegall.
His son, Rev. Mossom Wye, was born in Co. Antrim in 1662, and was the rector of Kilsaran 1689 - 1703 (Kilsaran being the parish closest to Castlebellingham, Louth), then the rector of Dunleer, a small town about four or five miles south of Castlebellingham.

Charles Wye (1694 - 1784)
The son of Mossom Wye was the Rev. Charles Wye, born in Dunleer, Co. Louth, in 1694, and who was educated in Donegal by Mr. Cambell.  He entered T.C.D. as a Pensioner at the age of 16 on March 28, 1709, and became a Scholar in 1712. He was for some time previous to 1728 his father's Curate in Dunleer. He was
collated to the R. of Darver on Mar. 12, 1734, which he held with Dromiskin, Louth, until Sep., 1752, when he exchanged with Rev. Joseph Pratt, A.M., for the R. of Ballymoney, Co. Cork and Kilmeen, (Ross), with which he held the Curacy of Kinneigh.
A deed exists which mentions a Charles Wye, gentleman, at Plunketts Land, Dunleer, in 1722.
The will of Rev. Charles Wye, dated 11 April, 1765, was proved in Cork 16 Aug., 1784. He mentions in it his son Francis Wye, and two daughters — Mary, wife of Quin, and Elizabeth.
The will of Francis Wye, of Castlebellingham, was proved also in 1784.
In 1784, Robert White of Williamstown, Kilsaran, married Mrs. Wye (widow) of Castlebellingham.
I can find no further information about Charles Wye's daughter, Mary, who had married a man by the name of Quin. I wonder was he of the same Dublin family as the family of Thomas William's wife, Mary Anne Quin?

Francis Quin of Dublin:
In either 1692 or 1715  (two different records record two different dates for the same couple, ie: www.irishgenealogy.ie and 'Diary of Thomas Bellingham'), Francis Quin, a wealthy merchant of Dublin, married, in St. Bride's, Dublin, Jane Bellingham, the daughter of Sir Thomas Bellingham of Castlebellingham. They had a son, Thomas Quin, who was noted as a churchwarden in Kilsaran Parish in 1748.  Thomas Quin also proved the will of his aunt, the unmarried Anne Bellingham, in 1758.

Who was this Francis Quin of Dublin?  It is known that Mary Ann Quin, who married our Thomas Williams in Dublin in 1777, descended from the family of Mark Quine, apothecary and, in 1676 to 1677, Lord Mayor of Dublin.  It is known that Mark Quine had a descendant, the bricklayer/builder Francis Quin.
Notes on Francis Quin - he was admitted to the Freemen of Dublin in 1692 as an apprentice of Thomas Quin, bricklayer. Francis worked on the construction (or re-construction) of St. Werbergh's, Steevens Hospital and, between 1718 and 1724, the library of Trinity College.
I've so far been unable to ascertain whether this is the same Francis Quin who married Jane Bellingham, but if this were the case, then it would link the Dublin Quin family of Mary Ann, who was known to be of the family of the Alderman Mark Quin, to the Castlebellingham area, and would also help to explain why a clergyman of Castlebellingham had officiated at the marriage of Thomas Williams and Mary Ann Quin in 1777.

The Bellinghams:
It seems that the Bellingham family, who had come from Levens in England, settled first in the same Liberties area of Dublin as the Quin family.
Two years before Mark Quine became the third Lord Mayor of Dublin, Daniel Bellingham, a member of the goldsmiths guild, became the first Lord Mayor of Dublin from 1665 to 1666.  The Great Mace of Dublin, a ceremonial item, was made in his workshop in 1665 and was subsequently purchased from him by the City Assembly. Daniel Bellingham was the granduncle of Jane Bellingham who married Francis Quin 30 years later.  Daniel Bellingham, the first of the Bellingham baronets, died in 1672 and was buried in St.Werberghs, as was his unmarried son, Sir Richard Bellingham, who died in 1699.
 The Bellingham baronetcy passed then to Daniel's brother, Henry, who had married a County Louth woman, Lucy Sibthorpe, and, soon after, he acquired the estates of Castlebellingham.
Henry became the High Sheriff of Kildare in 1654 following a stint in the military. It was about this time that he bought Gernonstown, later renamed Castlebellingham, from an ex-soldier, John Perryn, who is believed to have been granted the land following its confiscation after the 1641 rebellion, the original owners being the Gernons.  Another document lists land in Kilsaran parish which had been granted to Henry Bellingham for his services in the war, namely 619 acres in Gernonstown, 183 acres in Milestone (later the property of the Woolseys), 80 acres in Williamstown, 108 acres in Lynne and 86 acres in Adamstown.  This was confirmed in 1666.

Henry Bellingham's will in 1676 mentioned his sisters, Lady Jane Gilbert and Anne Bickerton, widow. His son, Colonel Thomas Bellingham was the executor of his will and his successor to his estates.

Thomas was the father of Jane/Jenny Bellingham who would marry Francis Quin in Dublin in 1692.  Thomas' will was proved in 1722 - he left £500 to his daughter Anne Bellingham should she ever marry, and £500 to her unmarried sister, Abigail, who had been named after her mother, Abigail Handcock, who was, apparently, not a great beauty. Jane, having been provided for when she married Francis Quin, was not mentioned in her father's will, whose executors were his son, Henry Bellingham, and his 'beloved kinsman' Robert Sibthorpe of Dunany. The will of Thomas' daughter, the unmarried Anne Bellingham, was later sworn to by her nephew, Thomas Quin, when she died in 1758.

It seems the Bellinghams maintained links with St.Werberghs - in 1772, Alice Bellingham, the daughter of O'Brien Bellingham of Castlebellingham, was baptised there.    O'Brien was the sister of Mary Anne Bellingham, who married Rev. William Woolsey of Milestone, Co. Louth.  O'Brien and Mary Anne desecended directed from Thomas Bellingham.

The parents of Anne Palmer who married Richard Williams (who was the son of Thomas Williams and Mary Anne Quin) were George Palmer, the governor of the Bank of Ireland, and Anne Bickarton, the only daughter and heir of Daniel Bickerton of Milestone, Castlebellingham.  Daniel Bickerton was the son of Robert Bickerton of Chatilly, Armagh, and of Anne Bellingham.  The widowed Anne Bickerton, née Bellingham, was the sister of Henry Bellingham, grandfather of Jane Bellingham who married Francis Quin.

Mary Courtenay was the sister of our great-great-great grandmother, Emily Courtenay, both women being the daughter of Frederick and Mary Courtenay of Wellington Street.
Mary Courtenay married Herbert Gilman Moore, the son of Emmanuel Gilman Moore.

http://alison-stewart.blogspot.ie/2012/03/the-courtenay-family-of-dublin-and.html

http://alison-stewart.blogspot.ie/2011/11/moore-family-of-rosscarbery.html

Their children of Mary Courtenay and Herbert Gilman Moore were:

1)  Sabina Jane Moore, born 25th July 1852 at 15 Little Britain Street, Dublin; her father was a convict officer.  Sabina Jane would later marry, on 15th May 1877, Walter John Woodward.  At the time of the marriage, both bride and groom were living at 16 Christchurch Place;  Walter was a corporal of the Army Hospital Corps. Sabina Jane Moore was illiterate and signed her name on the wedding cert. with her mark.
Walter Woodward's father was a sawyer's clerk named John Woodward, while Herbert Moore - Sabina Jane's father - gave his profession as a gate keeper.  The witnesses were Sabina Jane's younger sister, Kate Moore (ie: Catherine Isabella Moore) and a member of the Courtenay family,  Thomas Courtenay.
Walter and Sabina had a daughter five months after the wedding - Adelaide Blanche Woodward, on 25th October 1877;  her father, Walter, was now a sergeant in the Army Hospital Corps and the family's address was the Ship Street Barracks.  Following Adelaide Blanche's birth, I can find no further trace of this child.

Sabina Woodward appeared on the 1901 census living alone in Flat 21.3 in Winetavern Street close to Christchurch Cathedral.  She was a widowed tailoress who couldn't read.  Ten years later her younger sister, Catherine Moore, an unmarried attendant/nurse, aged 46, was living with her, but this time at Flat 21.4, Winetavern Street.

2)  Adelaide Anne Moore, born at 27 Wellington Street on 22nd May 1854.  Her father, Herbert Gillman Moore, was a convict officer.  27 Wellington Street was the home of the Courtenay family, and was home to a variety of family members over the years.
In 1875 in North Dublin, Adelaide Anne Moore married Alexander Sharp;  Alexander died a few years later, and the 1881 UK census shows Adelaide A. Sharpe living with her younger brother, Walter, in Southwark, London, along with his wife, Anna Maria Pennefather;  At the time, Adelaide was working as a governess;  the 1891 UK census shows up Adelaide Ann Sharpe, a widowed nurse, aged 34, working in the Peckham House Asylum in Camberwell, England, along with her younger sister, Catherine Isabella/Kate Moore, also a nurse.
The 1911 Census shows up an Adelaide Sharpe working as an assistant attendant on imbeciles (no sign of political correctness here!) in the North Plymouth Workhouse.

(In 1855, a George Greene of Cork St, married Sarah Coulter of 27 Wellington Street, the daughter of Philip Coulter, a mercantile clerk;  the witnesses to this wedding were Herbert Moore and George Hall who was married to Mary and Emily's sister, Adelaide Anne Courtenay.)

3) Emanuel Walter Moore was born at 27 Wellington Street on 5th November 1856;  Herbert was noted as an officer in Mountjoy Jail.
On 20th August 1880,  Emanuel Walter married his cousin, Anna Maria Pennefather, in St. Mary's.  Anna Maria's mother was Emily Courtenay who had married John Lysaght Pennefather, while Emanuel Walter's mother was Emily's sister, Mary Courtenay.   In 1880, Emanuel Walter was a commercial clerk of 9 Middle Mountjoy Street while his father, Herbert Moore, was still working as a convict officer.

I sourced a deed of marriage in the Registry of Deeds in Henrietta Street, made between Emanuel Walter Moore of Cable Street, London (commercial traveller),  Anna Maria Pennefather of Middle Mountjoy Street, spinster, and Charles Jones of Middle Mountjoy Street (decorator, painter).  Charles Jones was Anna Maria's brother-in-law, being married to her older sister Isabella.   The deed, dated 17th August 1880, three days before the wedding, stated bizarrely that Anna Maria Pennefather, with the consent of Emanuel Walter Moore, granted and made over a sum of £700 cash to Charles Jones.  (A reverse dowry?)

Emanuel Walter called himself by the name Walter Moore, while his wife called herself the simpler Annie Moore.
In 1881, the UK Census captures the family living at 22, Sumner Street, Southwark, London, where Walter Moore was running a coffee-house. Living with them was Walter's widowed sister, Adelaide A. Sharpe, a governess. There were no children; two men were notes as visitors to the household - a stickmaker of Shoreditch, Thomas Bloxam, aged 60, and a 26-yr-old medical student from Chester named something Mathias.  The family were also earning extra income by keeping five boarders.

A son, Charles H. Moore, was born in London in about 1883, although I can find no record of the birth.

By 1888, Walter and Annie Moore had returned to Dublin where their daughter, Eveline Moore, was born on 9th July 1888, at the Rotunda Hospital.  The family's home address was 131 North Street, and Walter was working once again as a clerk.
(The name 'Eveline' reverberated through the later generations, our great-grandmother being baptised as Emily Eveline Jones, her mother being Isabella Anne Pennefather who was the daughter of Emily Courtenay.
Emily Eveline Jones, aka Tennie, married Joseph Edwards Dickson and named a daughter Eveleen Emily Dickson, who we knew as our great-aunt Ebbie.)

The family were not living in Dublin at the time of the 1901 census, and, at some stage Walter Emanuel Moore died - the Index of Registered Deaths for Ireland don't show this up, however, so the family must have been living abroad somewhere.

The son of Walter and Anna Maria Moore, Charles H. Moore, married Annie May Ward on 31st October 1909 in St. Leonard's, Bromley, London. The  marriage record stated that his father, Walter Moore, had died (I can find no record of his death), and that he had been a carpenter;  Charles was living at 2 Grace Street, and was a carman.  His bride, Annie May Ward, was 29, and the daughter of George Ward, a railway fitter, of 4 Norris Road.  The witnesses to the wedding were Alfred c. Hughes and Minnie Ward.

By 1911,  the widowed Anna M. Moore, born in Dublin in about 1857, was home again in Dublin with her two children.  They were living at 54 South Circular Road, and Anna Maria earned a living through rental properties, in common with her older sister, our great-great-grandmother, Isabella Jones.  She had been thirty years married, and three of her four children were alive.  I wonder where the third survivor was?
Her daughter, Eveline, aged 22 now, was a scholar.
Charley H. Moore, born London in about 1883, was a motor mechanic and was noted as a boarder in the household. His wife, Anny Moore, was now only 18 years old, this despite the fact that both bride and groom had been the same age on the day of their wedding!  Another anomaly - although the couple had married in a Church of England church (ie: Protestant), now the census states that they were Catholic.  Charles' date of birth was given as London, while Anny's was given as Dublin - I wonder did someone careless fill out the census form?

Anna Maria (Pennefather) Moore died in South Dublin in late 1916.

4) Catherine Isabella Moore, known as Kate Moore, was born on 4th April 1859 at 41 Wellington Street. Her father, Herbert Moore, was named as a Mountjoy officer.
 Catherine/Kate witnessed her older sister, Sabina Jane's, wedding in 1877, to Walter Woodward.
Catherine moved to England where she worked as a nurse in Camberwell Asylum in 1891, along with her older, widowed sister, Adelaide Anne Sharpe.  In 1911, she was back home in Dublin, living with her other widowed sister, Sabina Woodward, in Winetavern Street.

5)  Mary Ellen Moore was born on 22nd January 1861 at 53 Wellington Street;  her father, Herbert, was now working as a mechanic.  He was noted in the street directories for 1865 as Hurbert Moore of 53 Wellington Street, so the family must have spent a few years living in this same house.

6)  William Percival Hastings Moore was born on 26th September 1864 at 53 Wellington Street;  his father was noted as a carpenter.
William was named after his paternal uncle, Hastings Percival Moore, who had been born in Cork in 1820.

7)  Herbert Gilman Charles Moore was born on 22nd January 1868 at 53 Wellington St.  By now, his father, Herbert, had found work as an overseer at the Guinness Brewery in James' Gate.   Herbert Gilman Charles died young in 1871.

8)  Frederick Thomas Moore was born 20th February 1870 but died the following year.  In 1870 the family were living at 3 Halston Street and Herbert Moore was working as a gate constable.

9)  Robert Isaac Alleyne Moore was born 22nd October 1871 at 16 Stafford Street;  his father was a caretaker at Guinness's.   The son was named after another of Herbert's Cork-born brothers, this time Alleyne Moore.

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Notes on Thomas Courtenay who witnessed the wedding of Sabina Jane Moore and Walter John Woodward in Dublin in 1877:
I wonder was this Thomas Courtenay the same man who was admitted to the Freemen of Dublin on 16th July 1863, being the grandson of Thomas Courtenay, Shearmen, who had been admitted in 1789, although the grandson was named as Thomas Frederick Courtenay.  This Thomas Frederick Courtenay was a yeoman of the Royal Hospital in Kilmainham in 1863, and was named there on the Dublin Electoral Lists of 1865.  He may well be a son of our direct ancestors, Frederick and Mary Courtenay of 27 Wellington Street.
The Royal Hospital in Kilmainham had been founded as a home for retired military men,  and military members of the Hospital staff were provided with apartments for themselves and their families.

A Thomas Courtenay, married to Maria Browne, lived at the Royal Hospital, at this time, and the christenings of his children are recorded on the Irish Genealogy website. The family were Catholic - if Thomas were another member of our Courtenay family, then he must have converted when he married Maria Browne.  Their children were mostly baptised in the Church of St. James;  the childrens' names mirror the names of the children of Mary Courtenay and Herbert Moore which makes me suspect a family link:

1)  William Courtenay was baptised in 1860 at St.Mary's, Haddington Road.  William, who was Protestant later, married  Emily Yorke in about 1886.
 Emily Yorke had been born on 3rd January 1856 to a policeman, William Yorke, and to Eliza Courtney - her address at the time of her birth in 1856 was 27 Wellington St, the home of the Courtenay family, which seems to further link the family of Thomas Courtenay to the family of our direct ancestors, Frederick and Mary Courtenay.  Eliza Courtney/Courtenay was most likely a daughter of Frederick and Mary Courtenay of 27 Wellington Street - if this is the case, then William Courtenay and Emily Yorke were first cousins.

William Courtenay and Eliza Yorke had three children in Dublin - Robert William Henry Courtenay was born on 27th May 1892 at 2 Avondale Road.  (William's sister, Adelaide, was living at 3 Avondale Road in 1900.)   On 12th May 1894, at 45 Avondale Road, the couple had Dorothy Mary Elizabeth Courtenay.  Finally, on 2nd December 1897,  at 24 Hardwicke Street, they had Sylvia Eugenie Adelaide Courtenay.
      William and his wife, Emily, were living at 12 Broadstone Avenue, Dublin, in 1911;  William was an asylum attendant.  Also in the house was his younger brother, the widowed Thomas Courtenay, a musician. Thomas was present with his 18 year old son, Thomas, who had been born in India.  See below....

2)  Mary Ellen Courtney of the Royal Hospital, baptised 11th November 1861;  the sponsors were Patrick and Mary Ellen Dwyer.

3) Thomas Courtenay was born 12th May 1865.  Thomas was a musician with the military and was posted to Lucknow, Bengal, where he married in Chunar, on 4th November 1891,  Ann McDonald, the daughter of Henry McDonald.   The marriage record records that Thomas was the son of Thomas Courtenay, and that he had been born in  1865.   Ann had been born in 1872.    Their son, Thomas Courtenay, was born in Lucknow, Bengal, on 25th January 1894.   (Also of interest was a Robert Benjamin Courtenay, born 11th November 1866, who married Edith Pant, the daughter of John Pant, on 21st November 1891, in Fyzabad, Bengal.  This Robert - and the record doesn't show his place of birth - was a warrant officer with the Barrack Department in Bunjab, Bengal.  Edith, a widow, died in Lucknow on 10th September 1936.)

4)  Emilia/Emily Courtney was born 10th December 1868, at Royal Hospital.  The sponsors were Robert Courtney and Julia Doyle.
      An Emilia Courtney, daughter of Thomas, married Thomas Gallagher, son of Terence, in 1889.
      The sponsor, Robert Courtney, may well have been the Robert Courtenay Junior who was also admitted to the Freemen of Dublin in 1857 by virtue of being the grandson of the original Thomas Courtenay, Shearman, although this Robert Courtney would have had to be Catholic, since only Catholics were permitted to be sponsors in Catholic christenings.

5)  Edward Courtenay of Royal Hospital, was baptised on 18th September 1872 and was sponsored by Elizabeth McCabe.

6)  Adelaide Courtenay of Royal Hospital, was baptised on 26th December 1874 and was sponsored by Patrick and Maria McCabe.
     On 19th September 1901,  Adelaide Courtenay married the Co. Down widower, James Clifford, in Grangegorman Church of Ireland church.   This was James' second marriage - the first had been to Charlotte Matilda Wright, the daughter of Frederick Wright, a caretaker who lived at 71 Rathmines Road.  James, a policeman, was stationed at the time in Dundrum.
It seems that the Courtenay children, although baptised Catholic, were reared Protestant, since yet another of Thomas and Mary Courtenay's children had reverted to the Church of Ireland by adulthood.  James was a sergeant with the Royal Irish Constabulary, and was living in Bray, Co. Wicklow at the time of his Church of Ireland marriage to Adelaide.  His father was a farmer, William John Clifford.  Adelaide's address was given as 3 Avondale Road, Phibsboro.  Her father was a clerk, Thomas Courtenay, and the witnesses were a Meta Stringer and what seems to be James Smyth Mac Sighe.  A few months later, the 1901 census picks the newly-weds up at Fairview Terrace in Bray, Co. Wicklow, where Adelaide was living with her husband and his five children.
     A lady's maid named Sarah Courtenay, aged 22 (the age is wildly inaccurate however) and unmarried, was also in the household, and was stated to be a cousin of the head of the household, James Clifford.   This must surely be Adelaide's younger sister, Sarah.

7)  Sarah Courtenay of Royal Hospital was baptised on 27th November 1876 and was sponsored by Sarah Fulds.   See above.

8)  Sabina Courtenay was baptised on May 23rd 1879 and was sponsored by Michael and Maria Baxter.

Julia Elizabeth Clare Pennefather ( c.1833 - 1875) was the daughter of the Tipperary-born barrister, Joseph Lysaght Pennefather, and of his first wife, Elizabeth Rea, of Barnwood, Gloucestershire.  Joseph's half-brother, Edward Pennefather, was our maternal 4 x great grandfather - both were the sons of the Rev. John Pennefather of Newport, Tipperary.

http://alison-stewart.blogspot.ie/2011/12/children-of-rev-john-pennefather.html

http://alison-stewart.blogspot.ie/2012/03/joseph-lysaght-pennefather-clonmel.html

Julia had been born in Barnwood in about 1833, nine years after her parents' marriage in 1824;  her mother died shortly after this, and her father, Joseph Lysaght Pennefather, remarried in 1840, this time to Helen Frances Middleton of Manchester. The Newport parish register records the birth of an earlier child, named Anne, born in 1823 to Joseph Lysaght Pennefather and to a woman whose name seems to be something like 'Daly' - both must have died shortly after.
Joseph's daughter, Julia,  cropped up on the 1851 census, at the home of her grandfather, Joseph Rea, in Barnwood, Gloucestershire.

Ten years later in 1861, she reappeared, this time at 133, Victoria Place, Clifton, Bristol, Gloucestershire.  She had married, in 1859, Sharrock Semmens Dupen, a steamship purser, who had been born in Phillack,Cornwall in about 1835 (and it's important to bear in mind that people at that time didn't pay great heed to accuracy when it came to their ages) to an earlier Sharrock Semmens Dupen, who had also worked as a ship steward aboard 'The Herald' and who had distinguished himself in the 1830s by his business acumen - noticing that broccoli was selling at low prices in Cornwall, he bought cheap and transported the lot to Bristol where the same vegetable was selling high.
In 1861, Julia and Sharrock Semmens Dupen had the one young son, John Lysaght Pennefather Dupen;  by the time of the 1871 census, their family was rapidly increasing and Sharrock had become a wine and spirit merchant. They had six children ranging in age from 10 to 2, all English-born- John Lysaght Pennefather Dupen, Anna Pennefather Dupen, Julia Pennefather Dupen, Percival Pennefather Dupen, Clare Pennefather Dupen, and Dora Pennefather Dupen.
There were relatives visiting the household too, and I'll expand further on some of these later - Matthew Francis Pennefather Hare, aged 24, a spirit merchant of Tipperary, and his wife Ada Hare, aged 17, of Clapham.
Also present the night of the 1871 census was a 15-yr-old visitor, Thomas Burke, who had been born in the United States in about 1856, but I'm unsure if this was a relation of the family or not.

Julia Elizabeth Clare Dupen, née Pennefather, died at Bedminster, Somerset, in 1875.  Her husband, Sharrock Semmens Dupen, went into the hotel business - in 1881 the census showed him as a licensed victualler in the Guildhall Hotel in Bristol, living with his daughter, Julia P. Dupen.  There was also a housekeeper, Elizabeth Greening Harvey, who Sharrock would go on to marry;  he died on 1st December 1886 at Weston-Super-Mare where he ran the Claremont Hotel - his will was proved by his widow, Elizabeth Greening Dupen of 24 Cromwell Street, Gloucestershire, the house next door being the infamous home of the serial killers, the Wests, a century later.

Julia's eldest son, John Lysaght Pennefather Dupen, married Maria Constance C. Mclorg, the daughter of Edward Mclorg, in Barton regis, Gloucestershire, in October 1884.  The couple emigrated to the United Stated in 1888, with their two children, Francis and Mary. Later, John became known as Lysaght Dupen and Maria as Constance Dupen.  Starting in Wisconsin, they worked their way west over the years;  he worked as a stenographer/bookkeeper, and was noted in 1898 in St.Paul working for the 'Y + L Coal Company.
By 1900 the Census shows them in Douglas, Wisconsin, and the return gives the following useful information about their children:
  Francis Dupen, born September 1885 in England.
  Mary born March 1887 in England.
  Clare born July 1888 in Wisconsin.
  Eustace born July 1890 in Wisconsin.
  Ella born April 1893 in Wisconsin.
  Catherine born June 1895 in Wisconsin.
  Anthony born June 1897 in Wisconsin.
  Philip born April 1900 in Wisconsin.

By 1910, they have moved to Cochise, Lowell, Arizona where Lysaght had a job as the bookkeeper for a mining company, and his son, Eustace, was a stenographer in a law office.  There are extra children - 4-yr-old Pauline H. Dupen who had been born in Wisconsin, and the Arizona-born Mary C. Dupen, aged 1.
The family were still in Cochise in 1920, but ten years later, they had moved to Los Angeles.

Another son of Julia Elizabeth Clare Dupen, née Pennefather, was the master mariner Sharrock Percival Pennefather Dupen, who called himself the simpler Percival P. Dupen.   In July 1893 in Liverpool, he married his first wife, Mabel Hewitt Manifold, the daughter of the late Edward M. Manifold.  One of the witnesses was an Emma Manifold, possibly Mabel's sister.
A son, Alan Percival Dupen, was born on 22nd October 1894 in Liverpool, but he died there in July 1900.
His mother didn't last too long either - the 1901 Census shows the widower, Percival Pennyfather (sic) Dupen, who was the master of the 'SS Jebba' moored in Liverpool.
Pervical married his second wife, Harriet Ransford Stewart (no relation of our Co. Down Stewarts) in Cheltenham in 1904.  Harriet was a cookery/domestic science teacher, the daughter of a chemist, James Stewart.
Her husband died four years later in Paignton, Devonshire, in 1908.

Yet another son of Julia Pennefather and Sharrock Semmens Dupen was Vivian Pennefather Dupen, born 30th April 1871 in Clifton, Bristol.   In 1891 he was a 19-yr-old ironmonger's assistant, living with his two aunts, Joanna Dupen, a teacher of Phillack, Cornwall and her sister, Salome Dupen, also a teacher.  Vivian's sister, Dora Dupen aged 22, was also living there and was working, like her paternal aunts, as an assistant teacher.
Vivian Dupen, a merchant, would emigrate to Madras, India, where he married Jane Ann Rowe, the daughter of John Rowe, on 17th March 1903.  The Passenger Lists record him coming and going over the years. He returned to England aboard 'The Empress of Australia' in 1947 and was heading to 23 Brunner Rd, Ealing.   In 1957, he returned again, this time aboard 'The Stratheden' and gave his English address as 'Weyland', Mavelstone Close, Bromley, Kent.
Vivian had a daughter, Dora Pennefather Dupen, born in Palghat, India, in 1908, and a son, Vivian Cecil Dupen, born 1904 in Tellicherry, Madras, who married, in 1928, Grace Katherine May Purdoe.

A daughter of Julia Pennefather and Sharrock Semmens Dupen was Julia Mary Pennefather, who in 1881 had been living with her father in the Guildhall Hotel in Bristol.
By 1891, she was living in Redruth, Cornwall, and had married the Rev. William Russell who was 20 years older than her.  She had two children - Bernard William and Dorothy Frances, and her sister, Clara Pennefather Dupen, was visiting.
Julia Pennefather Dupen died in June 1893 in Redruth, Cornwall.

Another daughter, Anna Pennefather Dupen, died in Barton Regis, Gloucestershire, in October 1882.

This post illustrates the incredible intermarrying of Anglo-Irish families in the Victorian era- it could be a book in itself, but I had to stop somewhere!

Matthew Pennefather of New Park, Tipperary (1784 - 1858), was the nephew of Rev. John Pennefather of Newport, our many times great-grandfather, Matthew's father being John's brother, Richard Pennefather of New Park.

Matthew married Anna Connor of Ballybricken, Cork, in 1814, and one of their daughters was Mary Lavina Pennefather, born 1815.
Mary Lavina/Levina Pennefather became the wife of Rev. John Hare of Tullycorbet, Ballibay, Co.Monaghan.  The Monaghan records were destroyed by fire so little information survives about this family.  I've gathered together snippets of information here and there and collated them as best I could.

All the evidence points to the Rev. John Hare being the son of the solicitor, John Hare of Deer Park, Cashel, Tipperary and of Upper Fitzwilliam Street, Dublin. The Limerick Chronicle of 6th November 1841 confirms this, with the announcement of the marriage of John Hare and Mary Levina Pennefather:
  'On Tuesday at the Cathedral, Cashel, by the Rev. Thom. Newingham, the Rev. John Hare, Rector and Prebendary of Tullycorbet, Clogher, eldest son of John Hare of Fitzwilliam-street and of Deerpark, Esq., to Mary, eldest daughter of Matthew Pennefather of Newpark, Esq.  After the ceremony, upwards of seventy people partook of an elegant déjeune at the hospitable mansion of the bride's father.'

Rev. John Hare was noted in Tully Corbet, Monaghan, in 1837.

From The Limerick Chronicle, 13th March 1844:  'Louisa Victoria, daughter of the rev. John Hare of Tullycorbet Glebe, aged five months.'

Griffiths Valuation of 1860 showed the Rev. John Hare to be have been resident in Tullycorbett, Monaghan,  a freeholder of 67 acres with 7 acres of turbary/bog, and an address at the Glebehouse.

Rev. John Hare of Tullycorbett died in Dublin on December 23rd 1860.

'The Gentleman's Magazine, Volume 219' recorded the death in 1865 of Mary Levina Hare, aged 50 -
   'At Wellington Park, Clifton, Bristol, Mary Levina, relict of the late Rev. John Hare, Tully Corbet Rectory, Ballibay, Co. Monaghan, and daughter of the late Matthew Pennefather, esq., D.L. New Park, co. Tipperary.'
   Mary Lavina was buried at the Rock of Cashel.

The children of Rev. John Hare and Mary Lavina Pennefather were John Pennefather Hare (1845 - 1910),  Matthew Frances Pennefather Hare (born Tipperary 1847) and Anna Sophia Matilda Hare (born Tipperary 1852).


Anna Sophia Matilda Hare:
Anna Sophia Matilda Hare married John George Gibson on 8th August 1872 and had 8 children, although only 4 survived childhood -
  1. John William Pennefather Gibson, born 57 Upper Mount Street on 29th Aug.1872. (John William Pennefather Gibson, went to Trinity, Cambridge, and appears in their records as the son of John George Gibson, Justice of the King's Bench, of 38 Fitzwilliam Place, Dublin.  John William had been sent to Charterhouse School, England, and had been called to the bar on January 26th 1897;  he practised at the Irish bar, as did his father.)
  2. William George Gibson was born at 57 Upper Mount Street, Dublin, on 13th February 1873.  He was a solicitor.
  3. Anna Elizabeth Gibson, 1877 - 1911.
  4. Charlotte Mary Hare Gibson, born Dublin 1880.

John George Gibson, husband of Anna Sophia Matilda Hare:
John George Gibson had been born at 41 Upper Fitzwilliam Street on 13th February 1846 to the solicitor William Gibson and Louisa Grant who was the daughter of Joseph Grant of Dublin.
 John George was the couple's fifth son and was the brother of Edward Gibson, Lord Ashbourne of Meath.  (Edward Gibson, later Lord Ashbourne (1837-1913) was the Lord Chancellor of Ireland.  Gibson was born at 22 Merrion Square, Dublin, educated at Trinity College and was a Queens Counsel by profession; he was an MP for the Trinity College constituency from 1875 to 1885.
He had been Attorney General for Ireland and drafted legislation known as the Ashbourne Act which set up a £5 million fund to allow tenants buy land by way of government loan repayable on a monthly basis over 48 years at an interest rate of 4%.  Ashbourne remained Lord Chancellor of Ireland for 20 years except for the three-year period from 1892 when the Liberals under Gladstone returned to power.  He lived on Pembroke Street in Dublin, died in London and his ashes were interred in Mount Jerome Cemetery in Dublin.)

John George Gibson was  mentioned in 'The Irish Law Times and Solicitor's Journal' of 1870:  'Barristers - John George Gibson, Esq., AM., Dublin University, fifth son of William Gibson, of Merrion-square, in the city of Dublin, Esq. Certificate signed by Charles H. Hemphill, Esq., QC. To be proposed by Gerald Fitzgibbon, Esq., MC. Mr.Gibson obtained the First Prize at the General Examination held before last Easter Term, and takes rank accordingly.'
   (NB: The Charles H. Hemphill mentioned above was Charles Hare Hemphill, the son of John Hemphill and Barbara Hare who was the youngest daughter of Rev. Patrick Hare of Cashel - he was therefore a cousin of Rev. John Hare of Tullycorbet.)
John George Gibson was a member of Her Majesty's Most Honourable Privy Council, one of Her Majesty's Counsel Learned in the Law, Justice of the Peace, Master of Arts of Trinity College, Dublin. He was a Judge of the High Court of Justice (Queen's Bench Division) and was a member of several clubs - the Carleton, Athenauem, and University Club.
John George Gibson's father,William Gibson, had been born in 1808 in Gaulstown, Meath to an earlier William Gibson of Lodge Park, who died in 1820 and to his wife, Mary Ann Bagnall, daughter of Edward Bagnall of Hawkinstown, Meath. (July 7 1838
June 27, at St. Peter's, Dublin, John Grierson Esq., of Moville, county of Donegal, married Arabella Gibson, second daughter of the late William Gibson, of Lodge Park, County Meath.)
The younger William Gibson, solicitor,  died on 20th February 1872 at Merrion Square.  He married twice.
His married his first wife, Louisa Grant, in 1831;  following her death in 1853, he married Charlotte Hare on 24th April 1856, the only daughter of John Hare of Deer Park, Tipperary, and of Upper Fitzwilliam Street.  John Hare was the grandfather of Anna Sophia Matilda Hare - therefore, her mother-in-law, Charlotte Gibson, was also her paternal aunt, being the sister of her own father, Rev. John Hare of Tullycorbet.

William Gibson and Charlotte Hare had a daughter, Elra Frances Gibson in 1858.
On 22nd October 1853 at 22 Merrion Square North, Bessie Gibson, the daughter of solicitor, William Gibson, married Francis Blackburne Martley, esq., of 107 Lower Baggot Street. Francis' father was John Martley, and the witnesses were James T.Martley and George Daniell.

Rockforest:  William Gibson purchased the Rockforest estate, county Tipperary, in the 1850s. By his first wife Louisa Grant of Dublin he had five sons and a daughter.  He died in 1872 and was succeeded by his eldest son Captain William Gibson of Rockforest, Roscrea, county Tipperary, who owned 5,214 acres in county Tipperary in the 1870s. A headstone in Mount Shannon Church of Ireland cemetery, county Clare, marks the burial place of the Captain's eldest son Major William Gibson who was born at Rockforest in 1874 and died in 1957.

Anna Sophia Matilda Gibson, née Hare, died on 28th September 1939 at The Edgehill Hotel, Bovey Tracey, Devonshire.  She was 'care of Martins Bank, 7 Water Street, Liverpool.'  Probate was granted to two of her children, William George Gibson and Charlotte Mary Hare Gibson.  Charlotte Mary Hare Gibson died on 9th September 1964 at Nynehead Court, Wellington, Somerset;  probate to Matins Bank.

Matthew Francis Pennefather Hare, son of Rev. John Hare of Tullycorbet:
The son of Rev. John Hare and Mary Lavina Pennefather was Matthew Francis Pennefather Hare who was born in Tipperary in about 1847 and who died in Hammersmith in 1883.

In 1871, Matthew F.P. Hare was staying at the home of his relative, Julia Elizabeth Clare Dupen, née Pennefather, who was the daughter of Joseph Lysaght Pennefather. (ie: Julia was the granddaughter of Rev. John Pennefather of Newport, while Matthew F.P. Hare was the great-grandson of Rev. John Pennefather's brother, Richard Pennefather of Newpark. I had to scribble a chart out on paper to figure that one out correctly!)
The Dupen family were living in Clifton, Bristol, where Matthew F.P. Hare's mother, Mary Lavina Hare, had died six years previously in 1865.  In fact both Wellington Park where Mary Lavina died, and Kings Parade where the Dupen family were living in 1871, are almost adjacent to each other.
In 1871, Matthew F.P. Hare was a wine and spirit merchant, and was visiting Julia Dupen along with his young wife, Ada Lumsden, who was only 17.  The couple had married the year before on 20th December 1870 at St. Leonards, Shoreditch, London.  Ada was the daughter of James Lumden, wine merchant, and had been born on 17th February 1854 in Clapham, although her son would later state that she had been born in Scotland.
By 1881, Matthew Hare was a Copyist in the Treasury, and the family were living in Hammersmith.  They had four children - Mary Ada Hare aged 9, John Henry aged 7, Francis Lumsden aged 5, and James Pennefather Hare aged 3.
Matthew Francis Pennefather Hare died two years after the 1881 Census on 15th July 1883 in Shepherds Bush, Hammersmith.
Ada remarried, this time to a silk salesman, Ernest Slocomb, of Devon;  they lived in Lewisham.

In 1901, their daughter Mary Ada Hare was living in Royal Hospital, Chelsea, and was noted as a student in a training college.
Her brothers all went into the theatre, one way or another. The best-known was Francis Lumsden Hare who was known by the simpler Lumsden Hare, and who became an early leading man in the Hollywood film industry, playing opposite Ethel Barrymore and John Drew.
He married twice, first to Frances Mary Ruttledge, then to Selene Johnson.  The first marriage took place on January 9th 1899 in St. Pancras, London - Francis Lumsden Hare was living at 31 Brunswick Square, while Frances Mary Ruttledge was at 172 Breckrock Rd., Islington; her father was Thomas Ruttledge of the Civil Service. The witnesses were Thomas Ruttledge and William Edward Ruttledge.
In 1911, Frances Mary Hare was visiting her cousin, Frederick James Lawson, a doctor of 66 Belgrave Rd., London - there was no sign there of Francis Lumsden Hare. The census return states that they had been married 13 years and had one surviving child, who wasn't there either. Frances Mary Hare was an actress.
The couple must have divorced because Frances Mary Hare's will was published in the National Probate Calendar:
    'Hare or Ruttledge, Frances Mary of 245 Baker St London NW1, single woman, died 10 April 1946. Administration London 24 July to Nora Patricia Hare spinster.'
    The couple's daughter, Norah Patricia M. Hare was born 8th November 1900, and died in April 1997 in Sussex.  She appeared on the 1901 census as a 4-month-old infant visiting the home of William Murrell on Povensy (?) Rd., Eastbourne. The same night, John Pennefather Hare, (the brother of her grandfather, Matthew Hare) was visiting another household, the Bradleys,  a few doors away on the same street.
   Norah crops up again on the 1919 passenger list for the 'Megantic' which was sailing to New York - she was an actress as were most of the other passengers;  she states she was Irish, rather than English, and that she spoke French as well as English. Her mother's address was 7 Ranelagh Mans, New Kings Road.

In 1915, Francis Lumsden Hare, the son of Matthew Hare and Ada Lumsden, appeared in the New York Census along with his Pennsylvania-born wife, Selene;  they were both actors, living in Queens.
In 1920, Frank L. Hare and Selene were living in Queens, both were stage actors, and Francis states that his mother (Ada Lumsden) had been born in Scotland, rather than Clapham.
The Motion Picture Studio Directory of 1921 gave the couple's address as Ballingarry, Whitestone Landing, Long Island, New York.  The fact that Francis Lumsden Hare named his home 'Ballingarry' is highly significant, since this was the Tipperary area around Cashel, where his grandmother, Mary Lavina Hare, nee Pennefather, originated from;  his father most likely came from this area also. Francis Lumsden's brother, John Henry Hare, claimed on the 1911 census that he had been born in Cashel.
By 1930, the couple had emigrated west to Los Angeles. They had no children. They had emigrated to the US in 1900 and Francis once again states that his mother had been born in Scotland; this time, Francis states that he had been born in Ireland.
In 1955 the couple's address was on Canon Drive, Los Angeles.
Selene Hare, née Johnson, had been born 20 February 1874 and died in L.A. on 11th December 1960. Her mother's maiden name had been Knapp.

Lumsden's brother, John Henry Hare (born 1874) , ran the Dunfermline Opera House in 1920.   In 1911 he was living in Bedford, and was married to Isabella Leith McIntyre, an actress of Newcastle.  On the census, John Henry Hare states that he was born in Cashel, Tipperary, this despite the fact that the census of 1881 contradicts this and states that the Hare children were all English-born.  It does serve to highlight a Hare family link to the Cashel/Ballingarry area of Tipperary, however, which was the home of the Pennefather family.

The youngest brother, James Pennefather Hare, owned The New County Theatre, a cinema in Bangor, Wales.
He married twice - the UK marriage index records his first marriage as having taken place in Newport, Monmouthshire, in 1898.
He remarried later, this time to Lucie Irene Jones - this marriage took place in Hendon in 1939.
The Calendar of Wills records the death of James Pennefather Hare - when he died on 5th December 1952, he was living at 'Roscrea', Friar's Avenue, Bangor.  Once again, the naming of his home as 'Roscrea' links a member of this branch of the Hare family  to Tipperary. The will was administered by his widow, Lucie Irene Hare, and a single woman, Irene Mary Rowland Jones, who may have been a child of Lucie Irene's first marriage.  The will was re-administered in 1861, this time by a James Anthony Rowland Jones.

John Pennefather Hare (1845 - 1910), son of Rev. John Hare of Tullycorbet:
Although I can find hardly any information about him, John Pennefather Hare appears to be the eldest son of Rev. John Hare of Tullycorbet and of Mary Lavina Pennefather. His middle name, of course, reflects the naming practise of the day, by using the maiden name of the mother or the grandmother.
John Pennefather Hare was a major Tipperary landowner who lived in the neighbouring county of Laois/Queen's County -  in the 1870s John Pennefather Hare of Durrow, Queens County, owned 3,922 acres in county Tipperary and 188 acres in county Cork, while Patrick Hare of Castledurragh, Durrow, owned 600 acres in county Tipperary.  Patrick Hare was John Pennefather Hare's uncle, being the brother of Rev. John Hare of Tullycorbet.

John Pennefather Hare never married, and flitted between Ireland and England, staying in boarding houses whilst in the UK.
In 1871 he appeared on the UK census in a boarding house at 67 - 69 Pall Mall, London;  he was 26, and a landed proprietor.
In 1881, he was lodging at 96 Talbot Road, Paddington, and was a single gentleman of Ireland.
In 1901, the census captures him visiting the Bradley family in Eastbourne; he was 'living on his own means', and his grand-niece, Norah Patricia Hare, an infant of 4 months old, was also visiting a neighbouring house on the same street.
   He died on 1st July 1910 at 18 Northumberland Avenue in Kingstown/DunLaoghaire.  Probate was granted to his nephew, William George Gibson, barrister-at-law (his sister's son), and to Henry Mark Patrick Hare, solicitor (his cousin, the son of Patrick Hare of Durrow), and to a Nathaniel Taylor, who also proved the will of Charlotte Hare, who was John Pennefather Hare's paternal aunt.

The Hare Family of Deer Park, Tipperary:
The first of the Hare family to settle in the Cashel area of Tipperary was the Venerable Patrick Hare (1736 - 1816), the Vicar-General of Cashel.  He married Mary Crozier of Fermanagh and Patrick and Mary Hare had a large family of four sons and seven daughters.
John Hare (1776 - 1865) of Deer Park, was one of them; he was the only son of Patrick Hare to have children. In 1803 he married Eliza Croly, the daughter of a Cork merchant, Humphrey Croly.  The couple went on to have 13 children together, including Rev. John Hare of Tullycorbet and Patrick Hare of Durrow, Laois, and possibly Rev. Charles Hare of Baggot St, Dublin.
   The street directories show up John Hare, attorney, living at 22 Baggot Street in 1812 and at 101 Baggot Street in 1822.  By 1835, John Hare and his family had moved to their permanent address at 25 Upper Fitzwilliam Street, where, in 1845, the directories record Patrick Hare, attorney, as resident at the same address.
  The Trinity College records show that Patrick Hare had been admitted as the son of John Hare, lawyer, aged 17 in 1825, which gives him a date of birth of 1808.  The Irish index of death registrations confirm this - he died in 1878 and the death was registered in Abbeleix, Queen's County, with a date of birth given as 1808.
   The same Trinity records show an earlier John Hare, born 1804, who was admitted in 1821 and was also the son of John Hare, pragmaticus, Dublin.  He got a B.A.Vern in 1826, an M.A. in 1828, and LLB in 1840.   John, however, died before the introduction of civil registration in Ireland.

Patrick Hare, brother of Rev. John Hare of Tullycorbett, married Eliza Houseman Westropp on 12th February 1861 in Notting Hill, London - Patrick lied shamelessly about his age, saying he was 40, when he was acually 53, probably since his bride was much younger at 26.  He was of Durrow, the son of John Hare, solicitor, while she was the daughter of Berkeley Westropp, a lieutenant in the Royal Navy; the family address was 18 Stanley Gardens.  It seems the Westropp family also had its origins in the Tipperary/Limerick area.

Intermarriages - in 1782, Arthur Vincent, the grandson of the Mayor of Limerick, Arthur Vincent, married Mary Westropp, the daughter of an earlier Berkeley Westropp. The youngest son of Arthur and Mary Vincent was Berkeley Vincent of Summerhill,Castleconnell, Clare, who, in his turn, married in 1835, Helena Hare who was the daughter of John Hare of Deer Park and Upper Fitzwilliam Street.  The daughter of Berkeley Vincent and Helena Hare, Helen Hare Vincent, married Dudley O'Grady in 1868 - the son of Patrick Hare of Durrow, Henry Mark Patrick Hare, and Arthur Rose Vincent would prove the will of Mary Frances O'Grady of Erinagh, Castleconnell, Clare, in 1923. You could go on with these people forever!

Eliza Houseman Hare, née Westropp, died in Dublin on 23rd September 1919. Her address in 1919 was 'Clarmallagah', Foxrock, and the will was proved by her son, Henry Mark Patrick Hare.  Earlier, in 1891, she filled out a UK census return in Torquay, Devon, where she was living with her Irish-born daughters, Eliza Westropp Hare and Emily M. Hare.
She was back in Dublin for the 1901 Census, living with her family in Galloping Green , Stillorgan, Co. Dublin - present were Eliza Westropp Hare, born Dublin 1862), Henry Mark Patrick Hare, (solicitor to the Irish Land Commission, born Dublin on 23rd February, 1869, attended Dulwich College, served his apprenticeship with William Fry & Son of Dublin), and Emily Mary Eclis Hare (born Dublin 1872).
In 1911, Eliza Houseman Hare was living at 5 Sydney Parade Avenue, Dublin, with two of the children, Eliza and Henry.  She states that she had had 9 children but that only 5 had survived.
The other two sons of Patrick Hare and Eliza Houseman Westropp were Loftus Robert George Hare who had been born at Grand Canal St., Dublin, on 9th October 1867, and John Berkeley Agar Hare, born in Dublin in 1863.
Loftus was educated at Dulwich College; the college records that he was the continental representative of Messrs. Howden. engineers of Glasgow.
In 1891, Loftus was a boarder at the Imperial Hotel, Cardiff, and was noted as an assistant marine superintendant.
Loftus lived in Islington and the electoral register records him there in 1808, lodging at 29 Tytherton Rd;  three years later the same register records his landlord there as his own brother, John Berkeley Agar Hare.   Loftus died on 18th September 1917 at 'Woodthorpe', Sydenham Hill Rd., Surrey, with probate to a member of the Westropp family, Berkeley George Gale Westropp.

John Berkeley Agar Hare was born to Patrick and Eliza Hare in 1863 in Dublin. In 1881 he was a student living at the home of his maternal grandmother in New Windsor, Berkshire, Eliza Isabella Murray Westropp, maiden name Safe, (1807 - 1887), who had been married to Berkeley Westropp.  She had been born in Cashel, Tipperary;  at the time of her marriage to Berkeley in 1830, she had been living in Rouen, Normandy.
Also present in the household in 1881 was her son, James B. Westropp, a soldier, and brother of John Berkeley Agar Hare's mother, Eliza Houseman Hare.
   John B.A. Hare married a Norwegian woman, Inge Bruun, in Bergen, Norway, in 1889, her father being Karl Mathias Bruun.  John and Inge were living in Newtown Abbot, Devon, with their infant son, Berkeley C.P.Hare;  John Berkeley Agar Hare was a veterinary surgeon.
   In 1901 the family were resident in Islington.
   John Berkeley Agar Hare died on 10th April 1947 in Navan, Meath. Probate was granted to Nathaniel Taylor who had also proved the will of John Pennefather Hare, was John B.A. Hare's cousin, and of Charlotte Gibson, née Hare, who was the 2nd wife of John Hare of Deer Park, and who died at Clarinda Park East, Kingstown, Dublin, on 3rd June 1909.


 

Our maternal great-grandmother was Rebecca Cuthbert who married Robert Stewart. Her brother, William Henry Cuthbert married Elizabeth McManus Grattan on February 22nd 1898 in St.Werburgh's, Dublin.  William Henry Cuthbert was a joiner like his father, Henry Thomas Cuthbert, before him, living at home at 69 Seville Place, while Elizabeth was a dressmaker who worked for the Abbey Theatre.  At the time of the marriage she was living with her family at 19 Parliament Street; the witnesses were A.W. Miller and Annie Coe.

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William Henry and Elizabeth Cuthbert spent the early years of their marriage at 27 Spencer Street, North Dock, before moving to 96.1 North Strand Road.

Amongst their children, all born in North Dublin, were:
Annie Elizabeth Cuthbert, born December 1898.
Amelia Frances Cuthbert, born December 1901.
Lilian Maud Cuthbert, born 1903; she married George Rowden in North Dublin in 1929.
Henry William Cuthbert, born March 1906. He married Lilian Maud Halpin in 1936.
Robert Francis Cuthbert, born September 1910.
Dorinda Florence Cuthbert, born 12th September 1913;  she married John Percival (Percy) Lovegrove in 1946.  Their son, David John Lovegrove, was born on 21st February 1947 and the birth was registered in North Dublin.
Doreen Cuthbert Lovegrove danced with the Abbey Theatre Ballet from 1927 till 1933.

Doreen Cuthbert

Doreen Lovegrove, née Cuthbert, died in Dublin in 2006.

The Grattan Family:
Elizabeth McManus Grattan, who married William Henry Cuthbert in 1898, was born on 22nd September 1874 to the tailor, William Grattan, and his wife Mary Ann McManus, at 43 Bolton Street. She was baptised in the Black Church of St. Mary's.

Elizabeth's mother, Mary Anne McManus (circa 1845 - 1892), was born in Ashton-under-Lyne, Manchester, England, in about 1845, to the Longford-born tailor, Michael McManus (born circa 1819), and his wife Catherine, who also hailed from Longford.
In 1851, this family were living at 12 Victoria Street, Hulme, Lancashire.  Michael McManus was working as a journeyman tailor, and they had three young daughters - Mary Anne 6, Eliza 4 and Catherine aged 2.  Ten years earlier, the unmarried Michael McManus had been living in a boarding house in Ashton-under-Lyne with his younger brother, Thomas, who was also a journeyman tailor.

Robert and Jane Grattan of Cork Street, Dublin:
William Grattan (1841 - 1903 or 1908), who married Mary Anne McManus, was the son of Robert and Jane Grattan who lived in the Liberties area of Dublin.  Robert Grattan worked in the textile industry as a fustian or cord cutter which was a process involved in the manufacture of corduroy.
The children of Robert and Jane were all christened in St. Catherine's on Thomas Street.
William was born to Robert and Jane on July 8th 1841 at 13 Ormond Street, which is off Cork Street.
On 28th February 1836, Samuel Grattan was born to Robert and Jane at Cork Street.
A son, Francis Grattan, had been born at 10 Cork Street, on 21st July 1838, to Robert and Jane.  He would later work as an upholsterer, and married Matilda Harriett Sharpe, the daughter of a clerk, George Sharpe; they married on 9th July 1870 - at the time they were living in 36 Aungier Street. Robert J. Wilkin, Francis Grattan's brother-in-law, and Caroline Sharpe were the witnesses in St. Peter's.
It seems that Francis Grattan died five years after his marriage to Matilda Harriett Sharpe - a Francis Grattan, aged 33, of 99 Cork Street, died on 11th June 1875 and was buried at St. Catherine's.

On 6th May 1844 in Cork St, Robert and Jane Grattan had Mary Anne Grattan who would later marry a timekeeper, George Bartholomew Pilkington or Pelkington, the son of Thomas Pilkington, a tax collector. Both bride and groom lived at 99 Cork Street when they married in St. Catherine's on 22nd February 1869;  the witnesses were Robert James Wilkin (Mary Anne's brother-in-law) and her sister Fanny Jane.

On 20th March 1847 at 118 Cork St, Robert and Jane Grattan had Fanny Jane Grattan.  Frances Jane Grattan, the daughter of the fustian-cutter Robert Grattan, married Robert James Wilkin, a cabinet-maker of Bride Street, the son of a Cavan farmer Robert Wilkin. The wedding took place in St.Catherine's of Thomas Street on 25th April 1875;  at the time, the Grattan family address was 99 Cork Street.  Margaret Curtis and Samuel Grattan were the witnesses.
The Wilkin family lived at 93 Mount Pleasant Avenue, Rathmines.

Robert Grattan, born 1771, of Cork Street was buried in St. Catherine's on Christmas Day 1847, aged 76.  Was this the father or grandfather of William Grattan?

The Children of William Grattan, tailor, and Mary Ann McManus:
   Robert Francis Grattan, born 13th April 1868 at 99 Cork Street.
  William Henry Grattan, born 19th December 1869, at 113 Middle Abbey Street.
   Bernard John Grattan, born 2nd May 1872, at 5 Henrietta Street.
   Elizabeth McManus Grattan, born 22nd September 1874, at 43 Bolton Street.
   Letitia Fitzgerald Grattan, born 23rd December 1875, at 43 Bolton Street.
   Valentine Samuel Grattan, born 7th April 1878, at 15 Capel Street.
   Edward Patrick Grattan, born 15th March 1880, at 75 Capel Street.
   Francis Alexander Grattan, born 26th September 1881, at 75 Capel Street.
   Samuel Charles Grattan, born 22nd September 1884 at 157 Capel Street.
   Mary Jane Frances Grattan, born 21st July 1886, at 157 Capel Street.

Mary Anne Grattan, née McManus, died in North Dublin, and her death was registered in the second quarter of 1892.

The second marriage of William Grattan:
William Grattan, tailor of 157 Capel Street, married a second time.  On October 5th 1893, he married Mary Norton of 15 Reginald Street.  She was the daughter of a shoemaker, Thomas Norton.  The marriage in St. Catherine's was witnessed by Henry Kay and Maude Eveline Norton.

There were two children resulting from this second marriage, both born at 157 Capel Street:
    Albert James Grattan, born 6th October 1894.
    Emily/Amelia Victoria Grattan, born 26th June 1897, died 1905.

William Grattan, tailor, died on December 6th 1908 at his residence, 157 Capel Street.
He was alive for the 1901 Census at 157 Capel Street.  Some of the children were still at home - the two youngest were Albert James, aged 6, and Amelia Victoria, aged 3.  Edward, aged 21, was a tailor like his father;  Samuel Charles, aged 16, was a grocer;  Mary Jane Frances was only 14.
By 1911,  William Grattan has died, as has his youngest daughter, Amelia Victoria. The youngest son, Albert James, a clerk, was living with his uncle, Thomas Norton, a printer of 13 Susan Terrace, Merchants Quay.

Where were the others?
William Henry Grattan, a tailor, married Jane Ray, and lived with his family, first at 11 Fishamble Street, then at the family home of 157 Capel Street.

Bernard John Grattan married, in 1894, the London-born Rebecca Elizabeth Collins. (Bernard had been named after an earlier Bernard Grattan of Cork Street, who also worked as a cordcutter, and may have been a brother of Bernard Jr's grandfather, Robert Grattan, a cordcutter of Cork Street - this older Bernard Grattan had a daughter, Jane Grattan, who married Stephen Spain in St. Catherine's in 1850.)
Bernard Jr. worked as a tailor as did his father William.
 In 1901, Bernard and Rebecca lived at 181 Guinness Trust Buildings, Dublin, with their two sons, Robert Louis Grattan aged 4, and Bernard John Grattan aged 2.
On 18th August 1895, Bernard John and Rebecca had a son, Samuel Edward, at 34 Arklow Street, where Bernard John was working as a porter with the railway. This child must have died young as he's missing from the 1901 census.  By the following year, Bernard John was a tailor and the couple had moved to 35 St. Joseph's Place, off Dorset Street, where they had a son, Robert Louis, on 23rd October. On 23rd December 1899 they had Mary Annie McManus Grattan at 19 Marlborough Street - this child also seems to have died young but there is no death registered for a child of this name in the index;  William Charles Grattan was born on 3rd December 1902.
Bernard John Grattan was the witness to the wedding in 1892 of - possibly - a brother of his wife's, Charles Robert Collins, a bookbinder whose father was Charles James Collins, a dressing case maker. Charles Robert Collins married Kathleen Rock, the daughter of a baker, William Rock.

In 1894, Letitia (Fitzgerald) Grattan witnessed the wedding in St. Werburghs of Ellen Fitzgerald, daughter of the printer Richard Fitzgerald of Werbergh Street.  Ellen Fitzgerald married another printer, Thomas Cannon, son of John Cannon of York Street.
Letita Grattan married, in 1897, Arthur Clark, a cleaner and dyer of Waterford;  they lived in Castle Street, next to Dublin Castle. In 1911, their children were listed on the census as May Clark 13, Arthur 10, Laura 7 and Samuel 5.  Letitia worked as a waistcoat maker - her brother, Francis Grattan, an unemployed butler, was present in the household on the night of the census.

Valentine Samuel Grattan seems not to have survived childhood.

Robert Francis Grattan married Annie Burgess, the daughter of a bootmaker, Henry Burgess of 4 High Street.  The wedding took place in St. Audeon's on 19th February 1894, and was witnessed by David Burgess and Mary O'Neill.  Robert Francis Grattan was a tailor, surprise surprise.
Robert Francis died in South Dublin in 1898, aged 30.

Samuel Charles Grattan emigrated to Massachusetts where he married Annie Maria Bird in Watertown.  At the time of the wedding on April 20th 1906, Samuel Charles was working as a glazier, but he would later go into printing.  His wife, Annie Maria Bird, was a presser/laundress, who had been born in Fermanagh to Robert Bird and Annie Mulhern.  Samuel Charles stated on the certificate that he was the Dublin-born son of William and Mary Ann McManus Pilkington - he may have confused his late mother's maiden name with the married name of his paternal aunt, Mary Anne Grattan (his father's sister) who had married George Bartholomew Pilkington in Dublin in 1869.
Samuel Charles was drafted into the US army in 1917.  By this stage the couple were living in Malden, Massachusetts, and Samuel Charles was working as a printer for the Columbia National Life Insurance Co.
In 1920,  the family were living in Malden, with one son, Robert W. Grattan, who had been born 16th October 1911.  They were still there in 1930.  The son, Robert W., had become a printer's apprentice.
In 1934, the street directories record both Samuel Charles and his son, Robert W., living as printer/compositors at 57 Willard Street - by now, Robert had married a woman named Harriet.
Having survived World War I, Samuel Charles was called up again for the Second.  This time the registration card records that they were living at 57 Willard Street, Malden, and that his son also lived there, ie, Robert W.Grattan.   Samuel Charles worked for the Rapid Service Press at 470 Atlantic Avenue in Boston.
Robert W.Grattan died in Abingdon, Massachusetts, on 28th February 1987.

Robert Stewart and Rebecca Cuthbert were our paternal great-grandparents, and the parents of our grandfather, Bertie Stewart.

Robert Stewart, the son of Joseph and Elizabeth Stewart, married Rebecca Cuthbert in Dublin in 1898.
Rebecca was the daughter of Henry Thomas Cuthbert and Anne Allen.

Anne Allen was born in Co. Limerick in 1848 to Robert Allen who lived on the Limerick/Tipperary border at Galbally.

Henry Culbert and Anne Allen:
Our paternal great-great grandfather, Henry Thomas Culbert,  married  our great-great grandmother, Anne Allen, in Galbally Church of Ireland Church in Co. Limerick on October 3rd 1869.  At this time the Culbert family had moved south from Offaly and were living close to the Limerick/Tipperary border in the townland of Kilshane.  Henry's father was Henry Culbert Senior, carpenter, and one of the witnesses to the marriage was a fellow carpenter, William Airey, who can be seen later on the 1901 Census still resident in Kilshane. The second witness was Richard Allen, possibly Anne's brother. Her father was Robert Allen, a farmer of Galbally. Anne's mother was possibly named Sarah.

The eldest son of Robert Culbert and Anne Allen, Robert Culbert, was born in Milltown, Offaly, on Jan.19th 1871.
Henry and Anne Culbert moved back to Anne's hometown of Galbally for the birth on April 26th 1873 of their daughter Rebecca, our great-grandmother, who later married Robert Stewart in Dublin.
Shortly afterwards the family made the move to Dublin city and were living at 4 St. Lawrence Road, Clontarf, where the remainder of their children were born.

The Allens of Galbally:
Most Allens in this area were Catholic;  given that our Anne Allen married Henry Culbert in the Church of Ireland Church, I'm only focussing on Protestant Galbally Allens, although conversion on marriage was common.  Sadly, the records for Galbally Church of Ireland parish no longer exist, so I'm patching together whatever paltry slivers of information I can find.

The tithes books of the 1830's indicate that most of the Galbally Allen families were farming on the Tipperary/Limerick border just north-west of Galbally town.  Anne Allen's father, Robert Allen, was born circa 1802, and, given that the tithe books only mention one Robert Allen, I'm assuming that the Robert Allen mentioned below in Ballylooby is Anne's father.  If this is the correct man, then Anne also had an older brother, John Allen, who was farming alongside their father in Ballylooby.  This may be the John Allen who later, in 1852, was farming at Keeloges immediately south of Park, Galbally.
The 1830's Tithe Applotment Books for Galbally, Limerick -
John Allen - Ballinamona, north of Galbally.
William Allen - Ballinamona
John Allen - Annagh, north of Galbally.
Henry Allen - Lyre
Robert Allen - Ballylooby, north of Galbally.
Allen (Robert) John - Ballylooby. (ie: John Allen was the son of Robert Allen.)
Allice Allen - Park, east of Galbally.

Griffiths Valuation was carried out in Galbally in 1852; there are two Robert Allens listed:
Patrick Allen - Annagh
William Allen - Ballylooby, 36 acres.
Francis Allen Junior - Ballynamona, 20 acres.
Edmund Allen (next door to above) - Ballynamona, 21 acres.
Francis Allen Senior - Ballynamona, leasing a house from William Allen.
William Allen - Ballynamona, leasing a house from Edmund Allen.
Robert Allen - Galbally townland, 4 acres.
John Allen - Keeloges, near Park, 113 acres.
William Allen - Kilgreana beside Ballynamona, 4 acres.
Edmund Allen - Lissard beside Ballynamona and Annagh, 11 acres. 
William Allen - Park, 32 acres.
Robert Allen - Galbally town, house, garden office and pound.

Exodus: One of the above Edmund Allens emigrated to Douro, Peterborough,  Canada and appears there on the 1851 census along with other members of this Catholic family.  His wife, Bridget Fleming, erected a gravestone for him in Douro, Ontario, when he died in 1860, on which it was confirmed that he came from Galbally.  He been born there in about 1774.  Other members of this family on the same census return for 1851 were Robert Allen, aged 30, with his wife, Johannah Curtin, and their son Edmond Allin (sic).  A third Edmond Allin, aged 30, and born in Ireland, was present too, along with his wife, Ellen Clancy, and their three young Canada-born children, Edmond, Bridget and Margaret.
The 1861 census for Peterborough, Canada, records the family of William and Bridget Allen, born circa 1811 in Ireland, along with their six Canada-born children.  In the same area was the Irish-born Anthony Allen and his wife, Mary, and three children.

Anne Allen's father, Robert, died at Park, Galbally, on 28th December 1875. He was a married farmer, and had died of debility, aged 73;  present at death was the illiterate Sarah Allen, who signed the cert with her mark, and who may have been Robert's widowed wife.  If Robert Allen had been born in 1803, then his daughter Anne had been born when he was 46 years old.


The death of a second Robert Allen was registered in the same Mitchelstown registration district - he was born in 1834 to John Allen, and died in 1899.  The Galbally marriage of this Robert Allen was registered in Mitchelstown in 1865; his bride was Nancy/Ann Riordan - they had Alice Allen in 1865, John in 1867 and Michael in 1870. Nancy/Ann Riordan was the daughter of Michael Riordan who lived in Lissard, Galbally in 1852.  Robert was the son of John Allen - there was only one John Allen in Griffiths Valuation for Galbally;  he was farming 113 acres in Keeloges next to Park townland where Anne Allen's father died in 1875. It's interesting also that Robert Allen and Nancy/Ann Riordan named their daughter as Alice, given that there was an Alice Allen named on the Tithe Books in Park in the 1830s.

An Alice Allen  married Edward Thompson in 1883. She was Church of Ireland and was likely the daughter of Robert Allen and Nancy/Ann Riordan - Alice and Edward Thompson make a brief appearance on the 1901 Census for Lattin, Tipperary, with their 15-year-old daughter, Eliza Thompson, who had been born in Co. Limerick in 1886, before disappearing from the records. (Emigration?) Both Alice and Edward had been born circa 1850 in Co. Limerick but were farming just across the Tipperary border in 1901.




Also of interest to me is Amelia Emily Allen, born 27th December 1827 1851 in Galbally to Richard Allen and - possibly - Nellie Blackburne.  Her descendant, Marilyn Williams, published her excellent research to the web; I tried unsuccessfully to contact Marilyn using an extinct email.  Her ancestor, Amelia Emily Allen, is of interst to me, since she was associated with the same area east of Galbally as my Anne Allen, and since Henry Culbert and Anne Allen (my great-great grandparents) named one of their two daughters as Emily Amelia. (The other being our great-grandmother, Rebecca Cuthbert, who married Robert Stewart.)
Amelia Emily Allen, known as Emily, emigrated to Leamington, Warwickshire, where she worked as a grocer, before marrying in the Church of The Prior, Leamington, Charles Addison Whyman in 1851. The following year she returned to Galbally briefly to take up an inheritance at Little Round Hill, which is in the same Park area of Galbally where our Robert Allen died in 1875.  Emily Whyman, née Allen, subsequently emigrated to the US with her husband, Charles, settling first in Pennsylvannia, then in Gage County, Nebraska, where she died in 1901.  Her husband, Charles Whyman, was a celebrated baptist preacher in Gage County.
Emily Allen's father was Richard Allen of Galbally, who, it is believed, emigrated also to Canada with his wife and younger daughters in about 1830; he later moved to the US where he joined the Union Army and died at Gettyburg in 1869 following a long day's march.  It seems that, when the family left Galbally for Canada, that their daughter, Emily Amelia Allen, stayed behind with her grandmother,  who was possibly the Alice Allen named at Park in the Tithe Applotment Books of the 1830.

 Edmund Allen 1848 - 1886:
The following relates the murder of the Protestant Edmond/Edmund Allen, who lived at Park, Galbally. He was born circa 1848, so was far too young to be listed on Griffiths Valuation of 1852. he was contemporary to our great-great grandmother, Anne Allen, and, given that he lived in Park as did Anne's father, Robert, he may be a brother or a cousin.
The obituary of Edmond Allen, Park, Galbally, was published on 19th January 1886 in The Limerick Chronicle.
'Shocking Murder Near Tipperary - On Saturday evening a brutal murder was committed at a place called Shronell, situate about 3 miles from the town of Tipperary, but does not seem to be connected with agrarian matters.  The victim was a farmer named Edmond Allen, living at Park, near Galbally, in this county.  Deceased, who was about 35 years of age, left his house at midday on Saturday for Damerville, Shronell, the residence of Mr.Austin Chadwick, for the purpose of taking back a farm horse which a few days ago was lent to him by Mr. Chadwick's land steward, John Tobin.  He arrived at Damerville at about half-past 4 o'clock. He remained there half an hour, and then left for home, a distance of seven miles. He was seen walking down the avenue and passing out of the entrance gate. At the Shronell side of Damerville gate is a high wall, opposite which is another high wall closing in the kitchen garden of Shronell House. By these two high enclosures is formed for about one hundred yards a regular alley.  In this lane-like place a few minutes past five o'clock was found stretched on the middle of the road the lifeless body of the murdered man Allen. The persons who found the body were Patrick O'Neil, grocer, Lattin, Michael Daly and Thomas Looby who live near Lattin.  There was no blood on the face of the deceased nor on his person or clothes, nor any marks whatever of violence.  Hence the men concluded the deceased had suddenly died a natural death. They did not know who he was, and they searched his pockets for any papers which might have been about him that would reveal his identity.  These they found.  One of the three men then ran up to Thomas Brown's public house, at the Cross of Shronell, and informed Brown of the matter. Brown is a second cousin of deceased. Brown and his son-in-law, an ex-policeman, David Hoey, at once proceeded in their car to the scene of the outrage. They placed the body on the car and drove back to their house.  On arriving there they immediately sent for Dr. Condon, of Shronell. On the doctor's arrival, they removed the clothes from the body, when it was seen that the man had been foully murdered. There were three bullet wounds on the back, one near the shoulder-blade, another a little lower down, and a third directly opposite the heart. They were pistol shots. Evidently he was fired at from behind. Two of the bullets lodged in the body and death must have been instantaneous. It appears the deceased had quarrelled with his neighbours at Galbally about a right of passage, and litigation was begun about 12 months ago, and has not yet terminated. It is stated a man was sent to gaol for three months at the prosecution of deceased in an assault case, arising out of the contention of the right of passage. 
Deceased was a Protestant, and was well-known in Tipperary, where he had several relatives. He was a second cousin of Allen, one of three Manchester "martyrs." He was a widower and had no family. He held a comfortable farm, on which he kept sixteen cows.'

The inquest was also published in the same newspaper:
  'The Murder Near Tipperary - Yesterday an inquest was held in Shronell National Schoolroom, before Mr. Tobias J. Morrissey, district coroner, touching the death of Edmund Allen of Park, Galbally, who was foully murdered on Saturday evening near the town of Tipperary under circumstances related in our fourth page. Mr. P.K. O'Neill, grocer, of Lattin, deposed to finding the body of the dead man which was lying in the road in the water-course, the hands being quite warm.  His watch and knife were in his pocket. Other witnesses proved the finding of the body on the road. The result of the doctors' post-mortem examination showed that there were no less than six wounds on the body, five being inflicted by revolver bullets and another by a dagger or some similar weapon.  One bullet had passed through the unfortunate man's heart and two through his chest.  The following verdict was found by the jury: - "That Edmund Allen came by his death at Shronell, the result of gunshot wounds, and that said wounds were wilfully and maliciously inflicted upon him be some person or persons unknown."  Shortly after three o'clock, the remains were removed to Galbally by the relatives of the deceased, near to which he was interred. The funeral cortege was a large and respectable one.'

Later, on February 2nd 1886, Richard Hannigan/Richard Hourigan of Damerville, Shronell, was arrested on suspicion of having shot Edmund Allen.  It was reported that Richard Hannigan 'was cousin to Widow Hannigan, the reinstated tenant at Ballyconroy, near the Limerick Junction'.  He was about 30 years old and was married.

It seems that the right of way dispute had been ongoing for many years. As hinted at in his newspaper obituary,  Edmund Allen had already been jailed in Limerick for assault.  His prison record - available to view on the LDS site - stated that he had been born circa 1848 in Galbally, and that the offence had taken place in 1876, 12 years prior to his murder.  The same prison archives show no record for Richard Hannigan, so perhaps he was released without charge.

Because Edmund Allen was noted as a second cousin of William Philip Allen, who was one of the Manchester Martyrs, I will do a second post on this individual as well.

http://alison-stewart.blogspot.ie/2012/07/william-philip-allen.html

(Apologies for the white patches in this post and several others - I have no idea why this happens or how to correct it!)

This post is a continuation of the previous one, in which I explore the Protestant Allen families of Galbally, North Limerick and of southern Tipperary.

Robert Allen, the father of our great-great grandmother, Anne Allen (who married the carpenter Henry Culbert/Cuthbert in Galbally in 1869) died in Park townland just east of Galbally, where the Protestant Allens seems to have settled.  There are so few Protestant Allens in this area, that I suspect a family between them.
Galbally town sits right on the border of Limerick and Tipperary, and the evidence points to our Allen family as having originated a few miles north of Galbally in Co. Tipperary.

Edmond Allen of Park, Galbally, was murdered in 1886 at Shronell, Tipperary, and was the second cousin of the Manchester Martyr, William Philip Allen, ie: the fathers of both men were first cousins.

William Philip Allen was born in Tipperary in April 1848 to a Protestant father and a Catholic mother. His father, Thomas (Henry) Allen, moved the family from Tipperary to Bandon in about 1850, where Thomas was the Keeper of the Bridewell until about 1868.
William was reared and educated as a Protestant in Bandon, but converted to Catholicism along with his brothers - Joseph, James and Peter - in about 1866.  He trained as a carpenter and worked in Dublin, Chester and Manchester. By 1867, the year of his execution, he had become involved with the Fenian movement which sought to liberate Ireland from British rule.

A failed Fenian uprising in Chester led to the arrest of two men, Colonel Thomas J. Kelly and Captain Timothy Deasy, in Manchester in 1867.  It was while the two men were being transported in a police van on September 18th 1867 that a crowd of about 25 sympathisers surrounded the van in an attempt to free the pair.  During the ensuing chaos, a policeman by the name of Sergeant Brett, who was guarding the prisoners inside the van, was accidentally shot by one of the crowd who had taken aim at the lock on the van door.
Kelly and Deasy escaped and were never recaptured.

The authorities rounded up 29 men and eventually brought five of them to trial.  Two were released, but three of the suspects- William Philip Allen, who had almost been stoned to death by an angry mob during his arrest, Michael Larkin and Michael O'Brien - were sentenced to death by hanging. Allen said he regretted the death of Sergeant Brett, but that he was 'prepared to die proudly and triumphantly in defence of republican principles and the liberty of an oppressed and enslaved people.'  He was only 19.
The execution of the three men took place at the New Bailey Prison in Salford, Manchester. Two weeks later a symbolic funeral took place in Dublin in which 60,000 people followed three empty hearses to Glasnevin Cemetery.

William Philip Allen, second cousin of the murdered Edmond Allen, had been born in Co. Tipperary in 1848 - some sources say his place of birth was Thurles, others that he had been born in a 'well-known village' outside of Tipperary town.
Given that his second cousin, Edmond Allen, was known to have relatives in the area around Tipperary town, I went through the Allen landholders listed on Griffiths Valuation in 1851, although I've had no luck researching these people further.

Griffiths Valuation, Tipperary Town, 1851:
James Allen, house only in Mackanagh Upper, Clonbeg, south of the town.
Paul Allen, Goat's Lane, Tipperary town. House, small garden, and ruins.
Thomas Allen, Bohercrow Street, Tipperary town, house.
Samuel Allen, 132 acres in Greenrath, north of Tipperary town.
Samuel Allen, Main Street, Golden, a house and yard - Golden is middway between Tipperary town and Cashel.
Mrs. Judith Allen, landlady at Ballyryan West, north of Tipperary town, about 60 acres.
Nicholas Allen, Fihertagh, south of Tipperary town, house and 10 acres.

To be continued.....

Sarah Anderson was the daughter of our great-great-great grandparents, the Antrim-born schoolmaster, John Anderson and his wife, Jane Willson Blair.  Sarah's brother was William John Anderson, born circa 1858,  who was the grandfather of our paternal grandmother, Agnes Keating Wilson, known to us all as Nessie, who married Bertie Stewart etc.
 Sarah's sister, Susan Anderson, was born in Newtownabbey in 1865, but died of scrofula, aged 7, in 1872. At the time of the child's death, the family were living at 57 Hardinge St, Belfast.  A third daughter, named Ellen, was born to John and Jane Anderson in Belfast in 1867, but she may have died young.

Sarah Anderson herself was born in about 1865 (she may have been the twin of Susan), and married the school teacher, James Barbour of Limavady, Derry  - couple married there in late 1887.  By the time of the 1901 census, Sarah's widowed father, John Anderson, was living with the family at Aughansillagh, Derry.

The Barber/Barbour Family of Terrydremont, Drumachose, Limavady:

The Flax Growers List of 1796 shows up three members of the Barber family farming in Drumachose - John, Joseph and Robert.

James Barbour's parents were Joseph and Elizabeth Barber of Terrydremon.  They had four sons - John (born 1840),  Joseph (born circa 1849), William,  and the schoolteacher, Joseph who had been born circa 1852.
James Barbour's brothers:
John Barber, son of Joseph Barber of Terrydremon/Drumachose, was born in 1840 and married Jane White, the daughter of James White on 19th June 1860.
His brother, William, married Eliza Beers and had two recorded sons at Balteagh, Terrydrummond - John, born 27th August 1879, and William, born 28th February 1876.
Joseph never married, and appeared on both the 1901 and 1911 censuses farming still at Terrydrummond.

A snippet of the 1851 census survived and shows the Barber/Barbour family living at Terrydremont - Joseph Barber was 40 and had married in 1830.  His wife, Elisa, was aged 38. The only child listed was 5-yr-old Joseph, who could spell.  According to the later 1901 census,  Joseph Barbour had been born in 1849, rather than 1846 as stated above, but they generally just guessed their correct ages in this era.

In 1859, Griffiths Valuation showed Joseph Barber farming 10 acres (leased from Hugh Lane) in Terrydremont North.
Elizabeth Barber died on 22nd February 1886 at Terrydremont.  She had made a will 4 years earlier:

 'March 27 1882. I, Elizabeth Barber of Terrydremon, do publish this my last will and testament in way and manner as follows.  I leave the farm and all the chattels to my son Joseph, and James to live here with Joseph as when I was alive, till something occurs to cause separation, and when James leaves, I allow him a cow, and my sun (sic) William one pound sterling, and my sun John one pound sterling, also to James Mulin (ie: Mullin) one pound sterling, and I nominate James Deens as my executor...'
    Elizabeth signed her will with her mark;  neighbours James and Samuel Deens witnessed the document.

The children of Sarah Anderson and James Barbour were as follows:
The twins, John and Joseph Barbour, born circa 1889.  Joseph died, aged 10, in June 1909.
Jane or Jennie, born 1891.
Elizabeth/Lizzie, born 1893.
James, known as Jim A. Barbour, born 1895.
Sarah Agnes born 1897. (A Sarah Agnes Barbour married Thomas George Kane in 1921 in Limavady, but I can't be sure if this was the same person or not.)
William Anderson Barbour, born 1898.
Louis Victor Mark Barbour, born 1900.  Louis died in September 1911.

The family emigrated to Winnipeg, Manitoba - the children seem to have gone first, followed later by their elderly parents.
In 1916,  James/Jim, a checker, was living at 476 Balmoral Street, Winnipeg, with his sister, Jennie, a stenographer.  William Anderson Barbour, their brother, also emigrated - he joined up with the Canadian forces in 1917, giving his address as 14 Camden Court, Young Street, Winnipeg - he had been born on February 7th 1898 to James Barbour of Drummond, Limavady.  William was a stenographer.

In 1921, the records show up their parents' emigration. 'The Declaration of Passengers to Canada' record James Barbour, aged 70, and his wife, Sarah, arriving, with the intention to remain;  they were heading to live with their daughter, Jane Barbour, who had paid for their passage over, and with their sons James and William - it was good to see that William survived WW I.  Jane, James and William were resident at Suite 7, Young Street, Winnipeg.  The closest relative at home in Derry was given as James Barbour's older brother, Joseph Barbour of Terry Drummond, Limavady.

In 1928 the couple sailed back to Ireland aboard the 'Minnesoda'.  Their intended address was 3, Main St., Limavady.  Next to them on the list was William Caldwell of 30 Arundel Street, a checker living in Canada.
Later in 1928, the elderly couple reappear on the passenger lists of the 'S.S. Duchess of Bedford', sailing home from Belfast to Quebec.  They stated that they had been living in Canada since 1921, so had been returning home for a visit. James Barbour was a retired teacher, still living at Suite 2, Huntley Apartments, Young St., Winnipieg.  His next-of-kin was his cousin, Mr. J. Mullan of 2 Main St., Limavady.

The same passenger list also recorded Sarah's place of birth as 'Carreagle', Ireland, but I've had no luck finding out where that is.
Also sailing with them was the William Caldwell who had sailed back to Ireland with them earlier in the year. He was aged 44 and the son of R. Caldwell of 30 Arundel St, Belfast;  his wife was named as Lizzie Caldwell of 455 Alexandra Drive, Winnipeg.

James Barbour's cousin, who he went home to visit in 1928, was John Barbour Mullin, who had been born in 1870 to the farmer, James Mullin/Mullan, and to Elizabeth Barbour, who must have been his father's sister.
James Mullan and Elizabeth Barbour also had Martha Mullan in 1878, Margaret in 1880 and an unnamed child in 1874. By 1901, Elizabeth Mullan, née Barbour, was dead, and the widower James Mullan, aged 55, was living in the Fruithill area Limavady - this townland was very close to Terrydrummond North where the Barbour family came from.  James' children were living at home - William aged 32, John aged 30, Elizabeth aged 28,  James aged 25, and Martha aged 23.
John Barbour Mullan was a schoolmaster like his cousin, James Barbour.   By 1911, William, John and Lizzie are still living at home with their father'  John married Effie Georgina Black on 2nd July 1912 in Ballykelly Presbyterian Church.  He died on 28th November 1931, and probate of his will was granted to Mary Elizabeth Black and Martha Mullin, his sister.








 

The four daughters of Joseph Stewart and Elizabeth Madine - Emily Jane, Louisa Helen, Mary Elizabeth and Catherine - travelled from Liverpool to Philadelphia aboard the 'Haverford', arriving there in November 1914.
My father always maintained that his four great-aunts were absolutely tiny, and the passenger list confirms this - Emily Jane, aged 52, a dressmaker, was only 4'10".  Her sister, the dressmaker Louisa Helen, 51, was 5'.  The housekeeper, Mary Elizabeth, aged 44, was only 4'8", while the youngest, the dressmaker Catherine, aged 40, was 4'10".
The sisters gave their home address as Greystones, Co. Wicklow, and their next of kin was their brother - our great-grandfather - Robert Stewart.
They were to be met off the boat upon their arrival in the United States by their friend Miss Hilda Purcell of 1615 North 12th Street, Philadelphia.   (Hilda had emigrated from Dublin along with her aunt, Lucy Purcell - both women were dressmakers like the Stewart sisters.)
The Stewarts were travelling to visit their first cousin, Jane Orr who lived at 2824 Sydenham Street, Philadelphia.

Two of the Stewart sisters - Emily Jane and Mary Elizabeth - returned to Ireland aboard the 'Haverford' in February 1915, a dangerous time to sail.  Their sisters, Louisa Helen and Catherine, travelled back on a different ship.
http://alison-stewart.blogspot.ie/2011/07/children-of-joseph-stewart-and.html

http://alison-stewart.blogspot.ie/2011/07/joseph-stewart-and-elizabeth-madine.html

Jane Orr, their first cousin, was Jane Stewart, who had married the Antrim-born watchmaker/jeweller James Malcolm Orr in the Baptist Church, Shankill, Belfast on February 15th 1875.  Jane Stewart, 20 (born 1855) was working as a machinist in Belfast, and living at 50 New Lodge Road.  Her father was William Stewart, but on her marriage certificate under profession, a line is drawn through the relevant box, which seems to indicate that he had died by the time of his daughter's marriage. William's brother was our great-great grandfather, the ironmonger, Joseph Stewart, who married Elizabeth Madine and later moved south to Dublin with his family.  William may well be William Stewart of Gransha, both men being the sons of the famer Joseph Stewart.
http://alison-stewart.blogspot.ie/2011/08/stewarts-of-gransha-comber-co-down.html

James M. Orr had been born near Belfast on November 26th 1853 to Thomas Orr, watchmaker.  His family seems to have had their origins in Ballymena, Co. Antrim, 25 miles north of Belfast.  At the time of his marriage to Jane Stewart in 1875, he was working as a watchmaker with an address at 8 High Street, Antrim.
The witnesses to the wedding were Agnes Stewart (possibly a sister of Jane) and a James McClean.
The couple's eldest son, Thomas Edward Orr, was born 7 months after the wedding in September 1875.

The children of  James M. Orr and Jane Stewart were:
1)Thomas Edward Orr, born 6th September 1875 in Belfast.
2)William Stewart Orr, born 17th November 1876 at 34 Shannon Street, Belfast.
3)James A. Orr, born December 1877 or 1878 - a James Arthur Orr was born in Belfast in December 1878.
4)Walter David Orr, born 8th August 1879 - this child died in late 1883 in Ballymena.
5)Mary Elizabeth Orr, born 20th July 1880 in Ballymena, but died there later the same year.
6)Walter Francis Orr, born October 1887, in Philadelphia.

In 1877, the Belfast Street Directories show up James Orr, Jeweller, at 34 Shannon Street, and also James Orr, watchmaker, at 14 Lower Barrow Street.  This might be the same man, one address being the business premises, the other being his residence.

The Orr family emigrated to the United States in about 1885, and lived at 3 Museum Buildings, Troy, New York State, from 1885 till 1887 when they moved to Philadelphia.
In 1889, the Philadelphia Street Directory records James Orr, Jeweler and Watchmaker at 2031 Germantown Avenue.  James Orr of 2631 Germantown Avenue made a rare astronomical wall regulator clock in the early 1880s, which hung in the booth of Baldwin House Antiques, Strasburg, Pennsylvania.
He was a member of the Philadelphia Horological Society.  In 1922, their annual report mentioned that James Orr of 1011 Chestnut Street had just returned from vacation trip to Chicago and Detroit.
James applied for a US passport in 1920.  He confirmed that he had been born on November 26th 1853 near Belfast to a Thomas Orr, and that he had sailed via Glasgow to the USA, arriving there on 13th September 1884.  He had been naturalized in Philadelphia on 11th September 1894.
 He needed the passport to travel to (something blurred) in London, and to travel home to settle his mother's estate.
James sailed home aboard the 'Carmania' in July 1925, arriving in Liverpool.  He was aged 70, and his destination address in Belfast was 11, Farnham Street, Cromac.

11 Farnham St, Belfast:
The 1901 and 1911 Irish Census shows up an Orr family living here;  these were presumably the family of James Orr.
In 1901 the head of the family here was the widowed Mary Orr, who was most likely James' mother. She had been born circa 1835 in Co. Antrim.  She was living here with three of her daughters - Margaret Doran, 39, a married seamstress;  Martha Orr, 36, seamstress, and Jane Orr, 38, seamstress.  Margaret's only daughter, Emily Doran, aged 11, was also present.
Margaret/Maggie Orr married William James Doran in Ballymena in late 1888.  Their daughter, Emily Rebecca Doran was born in Ballymena in late 1889.  There are few Doran births/deaths/marriages registered in Ballymena which suggests that William James Doran didn't originate there - a William James Doran was born in Cromac, Belfast, in 1866 to William Doran and Rebecca Beattie. In the 1870s, William and Rebecca Doran lived at 42, then 43 Cromac Street, where William worked as a grocer. As well as William James, they had Samuel Doran in 1867, Thomas John in 1869,  Sarah Emily in 1871 and Joseph in 1874.  The father of the family, the grocer William Doran, died on 13th February 1874, and his wife married again, this time to James A.Currie, a watchmaker of Cromac Street.
Margaret Orr's husband, William James Doran, emigrated to Philadelphia at some stage, presumably to join his mother and her second husband James A. Currie who had left Ireland for the US in 1891 aboard the 'Circassia', along with two of Rebecca's children, Sarah Emily Doran and Samuel Doran. Margaret probably went with him but returned home to her own family following his death.  William James Doran, watchmaker, was recorded aboard the 'Anchoria', sailing home to Ireland, from New York in 1894.  His death, however, was recorded as occurring on 28th May 1905 in Philadelphia, (his parents were noted on this as being William Doran and Rebecca Dorn) where he was working as an advertising agent.  Another passenger list listed his mother, Rebecca Currie, and his sister, Sarah Doran, sailing in 1903 to New York, returning home to Rebecca's husband, James A. Currie, at 467 Marshall Street. Philadelphia.
In 1910 Rebecca and James A. Currie were living in Reading, Pennsylvania, where James was working as an optician in a jewellery store.  By 1920  James A. Currie and Rebecca were at North 55th St., Philadelphia, and 39-year-old Sarah Doran, saleslady, had once again joined them there.
Samuel Doran, who had sailed with his mother, Rebecca, and her second husband to America, was living in 1930 in South 52nd St., Philadelphia and working as a watchmaker, surprise surprise.  His wife was a woman named Jennie, who had been born in Philadelphia.  A niece, Daisy Doran, was there too - she had been born in April 1897 in Philadelphia.  Ten years earlier, a Daisy Doran, aged 3, was listed as a boarder in a house in New Jersey, along with a William G. Doran, who had been born in 1867 in Ireland. Was this actually William James Doran who had married to Margaret Orr in Ballymena in 1888?  If this is so, then William James Doran must have married twice, Daisy being the child of this first marriage.  She disappears after this however...

By 1911,  there is no sign of Margaret's mother, Mary Orr.  Margaret Doran had been widowed.  Her daughter, Emily Doran, aged 21, was a damask designer. Jane was now a tailor's machinist, while Martha Orr was a confectioner.

Philadelphia:
In 1900,  James Orr, watch repairer, and his family were living at 2057 Diamond St, Philadelphia.  Thomas Edward Orr, 24, was a journalist;  William Stewart Orr was something illegible, but he was later a watchmaker like his father;  James A.Orr was a drugs clerk;  the youngest son, Walter Francis Orr was 12 years old and a student.
Also living with them was Jane Stewart's younger unmarried sister, Margaret Stewart, who had been born in Northern Ireland in December 1858.

James M. Orr received his American citizenship in Philadelphia on 8th June 1889 - his address at the time being 2057 Germantown Avenue.  His friend, William H. Doebele - another jeweller - vouched for him.

In 1904, the Philadelphia street directory recorded James M.Orr, watches, at 11 South 9th, 1117 Silver, Philadelphia.
In 1917, he was recorded at 1011 Chestnut, Room 629.  These were business addresses.

By 1910 they had moved to 3834 Sydenham Street which is where the four Stewart sisters were heading when they sailed to visit them in 1914.
Margaret Stewart, a dry goods sales lady, was still living with them as were two of the sons - James A. Orr was working as a salesman in 'drugs retail',  while the youngest, Walter Francis Orr, was a fire insurance salesman.

In 1930, James, Jane and the unmarried Margaret Stewart were living together at 724 Lycoming St., Philly.   James was still working as a watchmaker/jeweler while his sister-in-law Margaret was working in a department store as a saleslady.
James M. Orr died at some stage between 1930 and 1940 - in 1940 the sisters, Jane Orr and Margaret Stewart were still living together on Lycoming Street.  Jane was 85, her sister 81.

Jane Orr and her sister Margaret Stewart, Philadelphia. This photo was kindly sent on to me by Roger Orr, a direct descendant of James M. Orr.

The surviving sons of James M. Orr and Jane Stewart:

1) Thomas Edward Orr was born on 6th September 1875 in Belfast.  He married Lucy Koeberle in Philadelphia in 1901.
Lucie/Louisa Koberle had been born in Philadelphia in May 1879 to a Bavarian-born machinist, John Koberle, and his wife, Sophia who came from Wittenberg.  Early in their marriage, Thomas worked as a superintendant with the railway in Philadelphia. By 1910, the couple had two young children - Arthur Thomas Orr (1903 - 1968) and Allan, born 1907. Ten years later, the family had moved to the Bronx, NYC (address: 2796, Park Avenue) where Thomas E. Orr worked in advertising.  17-year-old Arthur was now working as an office boy in a bookies' office.  The family was still at Park Avenue in 1930;  Allan was gone but Arthur Orr was there, working now in office furniture.  By 1940, they had moved house but were still in the Bronx, now at Parkway North - the father, Thomas Edward Orr, aged 64, was a publicity man for Sinclair Oil Company, while Arthur T. Orr, his 38-yr-old son, was still in office furniture, although now a proprietor.

2) William Stewart Orr was born to James M. Orr and Jane Stewart on 17th November 1876 at 34 Shannon Street in the centre of Belfast.  He lived with his parents in Philadelphia and was recorded on both the 1900 and 1910 census there, before he returned home to Belfast.  He must have been coming and going between the two countries - he was recorded returning home aboard the 'Numidian' which arrived in Derry from New York in 1898.  He was a watchmaker like his father. William returned briefly to Philadelphia where he was recorded at home with his family in 1900, before returning at some stage to Belfast where he married Rose Wright in 1904.
Rose Wright had been born in Ballymena on 18th August 1879 to James Wright and Ellen Rock.
This family appeared on the Irish 1911 census living on the Ormeau Rd, Belfast. By this time, William Stewart Orr was a master watchmaker, and the couple had two children - Allan Stewart Orr, born 1906, and Evelyn Mary Orr, born 1908.  (William's brother, Thomas Edward Orr, also named a son as Allan Orr.)  There were three 'relations' living there with them. Annie Wright, 45, an unmarried waitress, Elizabeth Wilson Wright, 39, and John Wright, a 32-yr-old electrician.
The following year, on 15th January 1912, William and Rose Orr had their third child, James Edwin Orr, who would go on to become an evangelical baptist preacher and advisor to Billy Graham.  He held dual Irish and American citizenship, thanks to his father, William, who had been naturalised in Philadelphia before returning home to Belfast.
William Stewart Orr and Rose Wright had five children altogether - the eldest, Allan Stewart Orr, died young aged 25.  Following William Stewart Orr's death in 1922, and the death of the youngest daughter the same year (Margaret Louise Orr aged 3), the Orr family experienced financial difficulties, and James Edwin Orr became the primary breadwinner.  His mother, Rose Wright Orr, died in 1942.
James Edwin Orr travelled the world as a baptist preacher, along with his wife, Ivy Muriel Carol Carson, who he'd met while on a mission to South Africa.
The couple eventually had four children: Eileen Muriel, who lived three months and died in 1938; Carolyn Astrid born in Toronto in 1939 (later Mrs. Larry D. Booth); Alan Bertran born in Chicago in 1942; and David Arundel born in Oxford in 1946.
James enlisted with the US Air Force in 1942 and saw extensive service during the war, serving with the 13th Air Force in Bismark Archipelago, New Guinea, and being involved in campaigns in Borneo, the south Philippines, Luzon, and China. He earned seven battle stars and finished with the rank of major.  James Edwin Orr died of a heart attack on 22nd April 1987 in North Carolina.

(William Stewart Orr, watchmaker, was recorded in the Belfast street directories at 327 Ormeau Rd., Belfast, Co. Down in 1910 and 1918;  earlier, in 1906, 1907 and 1908, a Samuel Orr, watchmaker, was recorded at the same address - Samuel Orr was the brother of James Malcolm Orr.  He had been born in Co. Antrim in about 1867;  in 1901, he lived at Ava St, Ormeau, with his wife, Mary Orr, née Armstrong, who he'd married in Broughshane, Ballymena  on 26th February 1895.   Samuel was a watchmaker, and the son of the farmer, Thomas Orr;  at the time of his marriage to Mary Jane Armstrong, he was living in Ballymena.  Mary Jane was a farmer of Coreen, Broughshane, and the daughter of the farmer, James Armstrong.  The witnesses were John Armstrong and Annie Johnston McCully.
They had two children - Samuel, aged 1, and James Armstrong Orr, aged 5.   By 1911 this family had moved back to Ballymena - Samuel was still a watchmaker and they had a further three children...William Thomas, Edith Armstrong Orr and Annie Mary.)

3)  James A. Orr was born to James M. Orr and Jane Stewart in Belfast in December 1878.  He was living with the family in Philadelphia in 1900, where he worked as a drugs clerk, but I can find no further trace of him after this.  He may have been christened as James Arthur Orr.

4) Walter Francis Orr was born 30th October 1887 to James M. Orr and Jane Stewart in Philadelphia.
In 1912, Walter Francis married Nettie Pauline Hartranft who had been born in September 1885 in Pennsylvania to Gottlieb Hartranft and his wife Kate.  Nettie's parents had both been born in Germany - her father was a machinist by profession. The Hartranft family lived next door to the Orr family in Philadelphia on Sydenham Street in 1910.

Walter and Nettie Orr lived on Darien St, Philadelphia; Walter worked as an office clerk.  By 1920 they had two sons - Donald born 1919 and David born 1914.
Walter Orr joined the army for both the first and second World Wars.
By 1940,  Walter's son Donald was still at home with his parents in Darien Street, but David has gone - in 1940 a David Orr was living in Luzerne, Pennsylvania with his wife, Jane, and a newborn son named Donald.  This may be the same man.

More to follow on the Stewart/Orr combination.

The Children of Willis Creighton Williams and Kate O'Neill. Births Death Marriages etc...(and this is one of those posts that I'll add information to as I get my hands on it.)

1)Willis Creighton Williams II, born in Liverpool circa 1875. Willis Creighton Williams worked in the Bank of Ireland in Limerick and then in Dublin, as did so many members of the Williams family. (My grandfather Richard Williams also worked for the bank as did his brothers John, David Creighton and Gerald O'Moore. On the 1911 census, they describe themselves as 'gentlemen' bank officials.) He was an enthusiastic musician and taught music; it is said he used a dummy piano to practice on.  In 1901 he was a boarder at 16 McMahon Street and, interestingly, gave his religion as Church of Ireland - the rest of his immediate family were Plymouth Brethren baptists. He died, aged 25, on 26th September 1901 in the Adelaide Hospital, Dublin, of typhoid fever and is buried in Mount Jerome Cemetery.
From The Irish Times:  '1901 - Williams, September 26, Willis Creighton, eldest son of Willis Creighton and Kate Williams of 50 Park Avenue, Sandymount.  Funeral private. No flowers.'

2) David Creighton Williams, born Everton, Liverpool on 31st May 1882 and was named after his uncle.  His father, Willis, was working as a house agent/tea dealer in Liverpool at the time of David's birth;  the family lived at 53 Clarence Grove, Everton.
On 10th August 1923, David Creighton Williams married Mary Jane Creaven (28/9/1888 - 27/12/1960) and had Jane Williams, who did much of the initial research into our Williams family, on 28th March 1925.  
At the time of his marriage to Mary Jane, David was living at 38 Grosvenor Square in Rathmines, while Mary Jane Creaven lived at 28 Merrion Square - her father, William Creaven, was described as a gentleman, as was David's father, Willis Creighton Williams.
David was a bank official like his brother Richard.  The wedding was witnessed by Rebecca Creaven, George Willis Williams (David's brother) and Sophie Williams who was the groom's paternal aunt and who must have been visiting from London where she worked in one of the Barnardo girls' homes.  This wedding took place in the Mariners' Church in Dunlaoghaire.


3) Eveline Nina (Dolly), born June 1883.  She worked for the post office. The records of the British Postal Service - this being prior to Irish independence  show her to have been appointed in 1917 as an assistant postal clerk in Rathmines, Dublin; by 1919 she was working as a female sorting clerk and telegraphist.

Eveline/Dolly died on 25th December 1965 in The Royal City of Dublin Hospital;  her address at the time was 16 Cambridge Road, Rathmines.  She was buried in Mount Jerome.

4)  Gerald O'Moore Williams, born on New Years Day 1885.
On September 17th 1914, Gerald O'Moore Williams married Emily Caroline Quinn, in Christ Church, Leeson Park. He was an accountant and was living at 2 Upper Leeson Street, and at 'Ellerslie', Park Avenue, Sandymount, the second address being his parents' house.  Emily lived at 1, Albany Terrace, Ranelagh, and was the daughter of John Monserrat Quinn, a bookkeeper and J.P.  (Emily had been born in South Dublin on 12th August 1883.) The witnesses to the wedding were Gerald's brother, D.C. Williams, Meta Dowan (?), and J. Monserrat Quinn.
Their children were:
 a) Gerald Willis Williams, known as Sonnie, was born on 10th March 1916 (just in time for the Easter Rising in Dublin), but he died, aged 12, on November 11th 1928, at Marlboro Road, Dunlaoghaire from lung disease.  His mother, Emily C. Williams, was present at his death there.
b) John O'Moore Williams, born 26th June 1917.  On June 9th 1953 in Rathgar, Dublin, John Williams married Kathleen Bancroft, a widow, the daughter of a farmer, Redmond Geary. Her address was 7 Richmond Street, Dublin.  John Williams, a radio mechanic, lived in Coolmine, Rathcoole;  his father, Gerald O'Moore Williams, was dead by this time.
c)  Emily Geraldine Williams was born on 4th January 1919, and would later marry Cyril George Day.
d)  Dorothy Elizabeth Williams was born 25th January 1924.


Gerald O'Moore Williams and Emily Caroline Williams separated in 1932.
Emily Caroline Williams died on 9th September 1956 in South Dublin.
Gerald O'Moore Williams died in Dublin in 1945, and was buried in Deansgrange.

5) Jessie Muriel, born 25th April 1886; she died of whooping cough 25 days later at the family home (50 Park Avenue, Sandymount) , and was buried in the family plot in Mount Jerome.

6) Kathleen Willis Williams, born circa 1887 - 1888.  She died in June 1957.

7) Richard, born May 1889. (Our maternal grandfather, who was named after his own paternal grandfather, Richard of Eden Quay and Dundrum.)
Richard Williams married our grandmother, Vera Dickson, on September 28th 1927.  From The Irish Times: 'Williams and Dickson - September 28 1927 at Merrion Hall, Lower Merrion Street, Dublin, by Mr. William T. Biller.  Richard, son of Willis Creighton Williams, 38 Grosvenor Square, Rathmines, to Vera Antoinette, daughter of the late Joseph E. Dickson., Carisbrook House, Pembroke Road.

Their children were:
a)  Maurice Willis Creighton Williams, born Dublin 14th September 1928. Maurice, an engineer, married Marguerite (Daisy) Henderson in 1952 and the couple moved permanently to Edinburgh, Scotland.
b)  Raymond Dickson Williams, born in Dublin on 28th March 1930.  He married in 1964 Ruth Musgrave Harris - both were doctors and spent their entire working lives running a teaching hospital in Zaire, before retiring to England.
c)  Trevor Willis Williams, born in Dublin on 19th March 1932.  A doctor, he emigrated in 1957 to Canada where he married Elizabeth Rose Drover (Betty) in 1960.  Trevor settled first in St. John's, Newfoundland, where he worked with the Department of Public Health, before practising as a pediatrician in Winnipeg, then moving into research, working in the Cadham Provincial Lab as Assistant Director of Microbiology and Virology. He was the Director of Lab and X-Ray Services for over 20 years and was Director of Cadham Lab for the final 5 years of his career, retiring in 2000.
d)  Alan O'Moore Williams, an engineer, born on 1st May 1934. He stayed here in Ireland and never married.
e)  Ruth Dickson Williams, my mother, a teacher, born on 4th May 1937.  She married our dad,  Paul Cuthbert Stewart, in Dublin on 31st March 1960.
f)  Edward Dickson Williams, an engineer, born 23rd April 1942;  in 1970, he married Mary Elizabeth Percy (known as Elizabeth), a teacher who worked with my mother Ruth in Rathgar Junior School. They moved to England.


8) Eliza Willis (Lil), born July 1890.
   Lil owned a few shares in the City of Dublin Steam Packet Company.  When the company was being finally wound up in Dublin in 1931, the records of the ordinary shareholders show that Miss Elizabeth Willis Williams, of Royal Bank of Ireland, Terenure Branch, Rathmines, held £20 of shares.

9) Muriel, born 11th September 1891.  In 1918 Muriel married Thomas Elwood.  Earlier, in 1911, the Irish census reveals Thomas living in a boarding house in Mountjoy Square, Dublin - he was a 17-yr-old 'boy clerk' working in the Irish Land Commission and the census states that he'd been born in England, although this is incorrect - his parents were the bricklayer, James Elwood, and Charlotte White of Belfast, Co. Antrim.
Their children were:
a)  Dr.Willis John Elwood, born 24th May 1920. (Willis worked with my uncle Alan Williams, and with my mother's cousin, Jane Williams, on the family tree.)
b)  James Stanley Elwood, born 5th November 1922.
c)  Thomas Neville Elwood, born 28th Augusts 1928.
d) Peter Creighton Elwood, born 23rd August 1930.
e)  Philip Earle Elwood, born 12th March 1932.


10) John, born circa 1892 - 1893.  Died in the trenches in France in 1918.
   http://alison-stewart.blogspot.ie/2011/10/john-williams-189293-1918.html

11) George Willis, born circa 1899 - 1900.  He married Eileen Elizabeth Webb on 25th March 1925 in Merrion Hall, Dublin.  He was a bank clerk living at 38 Grosvenor Square, Rathmines.  Eileen lived at 4 Victoria Avenue, Donnybrook - her father, Charles Webb, a gentleman, was deceased.  George's brother (our grandfather), Richard, was a witness at the wedding, as was his sister, Eliza Willis Williams.

Eileen Elizabeth Webb was born 27th December 1902 to a navy man, Charles Webb, who had been born in England in 1858, and to his wife, Elizabeth T. Webb of Galway.
In 1901 this family were living at 47 Albert Rd., Glasthule, Dunlaoghaire. Eileen's father, Charles Webb, was chief writer with the Royal Navy.  Their two children had been born in Co. Down - Jemima Webb, 19, and Charles Webb, 17, who was a clerk in an insurance office.  The family were Wesleyan Methodist.  (Charles Webb married Jemima Elizabeth Wills in Belfast in 1878.)

In 1911 they were living at 48 Albert Rd, Dunlaoghaire, along with Elizabeth T. Webb's widowed mother,  Frances Wills, who had been born in England in about 1840.

George Willis Williams and Eileen Elizabeth had only the one child, a daughter, Eileen Willis Williams (23rd July 1928 - 26th October 1999.)

George Willis Williams was buried in Mount Jerome cemetery in February 1968.

Williams Headstone, Mount Jerome, Dublin:
Family Burial Place of Willis Creighton Williams
    Jessie Muriel Williams (Junr)  died 20th May 1886  (This was the infant daughter of Willis Creighton Williams and Kate O'Neill, who died at 25 days of age.)
    Willis Creighton Williams (Junr)  died 26th September 1901 (This was the son of Willis Creighton Williams and Kate O'Neill; he died young of typhoid.)
    Emily Williams     died 8th October 1914  (This was the daughter of Richard Williams and Geraldine O'Moore Creighton.)
    Kate Williams      died 17th February 1920  (The wife of Richard and Geraldine's son, Willis Creighton Williams.)
    Willis Creighton Williams  died 22nd October 1932  (This was the son of Richard Williams and Geraldine O'Moore Creighton.)
    John Williams     Killed in France   October 1918'  (John was the son of Willis Creighton Williams and Kate O'Neill.)

Henry Culbert/Cuthbert and Anne Allen were our paternal great-great grandparents - their daughter, Rebecca Culbert/Cuthbert married Robert Stewart, and Rebecca and Robert Stewart were the parents of our grandfather, Bertie Stewart.

Henry Culbert, a carpenter like his father Henry before him, had a sister, Maria Culbert, and this post concerns her and her husband, John Thomas Gale.

Maria Culbert, was born to Henry, a carpenter, and what seems to be Roberta or Rebecca- the handwriting in the register was very difficult to decipher. She was born in Corraclevin, a townland near Monegall, Co. Offaly, in 1840, but the baptism seems to have been entered into the register at a later date, possibly 1848.  Maria had a younger sister, Elizabeth Culbert, also born in Corraclevin two years after Maria in 1842, but about whom I've yet to discover more.
Henry Culbert Senior, a carpenter, seemed to move around the Offaly/Tipperary area, bringing the family with him.

Maria Culbert married John Thomas Gale in the parish church of Donohill, Tipperary, close to the town of Cashel, on May 21st 1861 where, I presume, John, a teacher, was working.  His father, William Gale, was also a schoolmaster.  The witnesses to the wedding were Henry and William Culbert, who could be anyone but were most likely Maria Culbert's brothers.
 John Thomas Gale had been born in about 1839 in Queen's County/Laois, but the family had moved into the neighbouring county of Carlow at some stage. Although John's father, William Gale, was a teacher by the time of his son's marriage in 1861, he seems to have been a farmer at one stage, before becoming a scripture reader, which was a type of Protestant missionary as far as I know.
Maria and John Thomas Gale spent the first few years of their marriage in Tipperary, before moving to the Kenmare/Cahirciveen area of Co. Kerry, and then finally settling in Limerick city.

In 1879, a John Gale and his wife, Alice Gale, ran a 'Ragged School' in Bowdey's Lane near Roches Street.  This was one of a number of schools in Limerick which catered to the education of orphaned Protestant children, and which also took in Catholic orphans in the hope of converting them.
This caught my attention, merely because our John Thomas Gale was noted in the 1885 Limerick register of electors as living in Glenworth Street, the premises in question being a ragged school.   Roches Street and Glentworth Street are adjacent to each other.  (John and Alice Gale may well be my John Thomas Gale and Maria, but wrongly noted.)

The Gale family lived on either Musgrave Street, or adjacent streets, for much of their married life.  John, a teacher, was working in 1911 for Hassetts Ironmongers, the business owned by his brother-in-law, Thomas Hassett.

John Thomas Gale died in Limerick in 1913.  His obituary appeared in The Limerick Chronicle of 11th September 1913.
   'Death of Mr. T.J. Gale - We regret to record the death, which took place at his residence, 2 Grattan Villas, on Tuesday night, of Mr. John Thomas Gale, an old and highly-respected citizen.  He had attained the ripe old age of 78 years, and having been in failing health for some twelve months back, his demise was not unexpected. Mr. Gale, by his kindly and courteous manner, won the esteem of very many friends in Limerick, who have heard with regret of his passing away. Sincere sympathy is tendered to his sons, who are well known and esteemed in postal and commercial life in the city, and the other members of his family. The funeral took place this afternoon for St. Munchin's and was widely attended.'

Maria Gale, née Culbert, died in 1911 and her obituary appeared in the Limerick Chronicle on december 2nd 1911.
'Funeral of Mrs. Gale:  The funeral of the late Mrs. Maria Gale, wife of Mr. John Gale, who passed away on the 30th ult., at her residence, Grattan Villas, in the 68th year of her age, took place on Sunday last, when at two o'clock the remains were removed for interment at St. Munchin's Cemetery. The funeral was very large and representative, and was ample evidence of sympathy and respect.

    The chief mourners were : - Messrs. William, Thomas, Harry Gale (sons), T. Hassett, brother-in-law, W. Ormston, J. Burrowes, H.Eakins, (sons-in-law), George Hill, Norman Gale, Harry Gale, C. Burrowes, F. Ormston, R. Hill (grandchildren), H. Hasset, J. Hasset (nephews).
    Amongst the general public were : -  Rev. J. T. Waller M.A.,   A.J. Eakins, George Wilson, J. Tuite, J. Leddan, K. O'Brien, P.R. Malone, H. Powell,  T. O'Dwyer (Bansha)...Mr. Norman Gale, grandson of the deceased, presided at the organ.' 
(The list of mourners was too extensive to transcribe, so the above is merely a taster. None of her own family, ie the Cuthberts of Offaly and Dublin, attended.  Her older brother, our great-great grandfather, Henry Cuthbert, had died in Dublin in 1903.


The Children of John Thomas Gale and Maria Culbert:
According to the 1911 Census, the couple had nine children, of whom only eight survived.

1)  Lizzie Gale was born in Tipperary in 1863 and was the first-born child of John Thomas Gale and Maria Culbert.  She married George Hill, a builder who'd been born in Dundalk, in Limerick in 1885.
Lizzie and George Hill were living in Ballinacurra, Limerick city, on the 1901 census. Their first child, Annie Maude, had been born in Limerick in 1886. Three years later their second child, Lizzie, was born in Belfast, as was Edith in 1891 and George in 1893. Evelyn was born in 1896 in Dublin, and the youngest, Alice, was born in Limerick city in 1900.  Robert Hill was born two years later in about 1902.

By the time of the next Irish census, Lizzie had been widowed and had moved with her unmarried children to St. John's Avenue, Limerick, which runs adjacent to Mulgrave Street and Grattan Villas where her parents and siblings were all resident.  The older children were all working - Annie Maude was a bookkeeper, Lillie/Lizzie was a milliner, Edith was a typist, George a carpenter like his uncle Henry Cuthbert and his grandfather, and Eve/Evelyn was a typist.

2)  The following year, in Limerick, John and Maria Gale had Alice Maria Gale on 26th May 1864.
Alice Maria married an English blacksmith, Edward Cooke, in Limerick in 1883.  He had been born in Leiston, Suffolk in about 1856.
The couple had a daughter, Alice Maria Cooke, in Limerick in 1884, before moving to 13 Gaywood St, Southwark, London, where a daughter, Vida Adelaide Cooke, was baptised on July 8th 1888, in St. Jude's, Southwark.
A son, Newton Edward William Cooke, was born on April 30th 1894, and baptised in the Jesus Chapel in Enfield, Middlesex.   The parents' address was given as 81 George's Rd., Forty Hill.
Evan George Maxwell Cooke was born at the same address on June 21st 1896.
Harold John Wink Cooke was born at Baker St., Enfield, on July 21st 1901 - his father, George Cooke, was an 'engineer R.S.A. Fr.'

Their daughter, Vida Adelaide Cooke, worked as a school teacher prior to her marriage in 1919 (in Edmonton, Middlesex) to a William N. Gale.    This was William Norman Gale, her cousin, the son of her uncle, William Schomberg Gale.

From the records:
Edward Cooke, born 1856, died at Edmonton, Middlesex, in March 1933.
Alice M. Cooke, born 1864, died at Edmonton, Middlesex, in either 1935 or 1941. (There were two entries
with the same name.)
Newton Edward William Cooke died on 13th August 1948, at 120 Plymouth Rd., Penarth, Glamorganshire, Wales.  His widow was Hilda Laurie Cooke.

3)  Rebecca Gale was born in Limerick to John and Maria Gale on 25th May 1866.
      Rebecca Adelaide Gale married, in late 1896 in Limerick, James Francis Burrowes, who had been born in 1868 in Limerick to Charles Burrowes and Mary Anne Caffrey.   The couple lived at 21 Mulgrave Street in 1901 with their two young children, Charles Edward and Mary Adelaide.

In common with other members of the Gale family, by 1911 they had moved around the corner to St. John's Avenue.  Rebecca and James Francis lived at No. 10.   James Francis Burrowes was a postal worker.
By 1911 they had another four children  - Kathleen Francis aged 9, James Fitzgerald Burrowes aged 8, Rebecca Olive/Olave Burrowes aged 6 and John Francis Burrowes aged 3.  The 1911 Census return states that they had 7 children, however, which means two were missing from the home in 1911.  The eldest, Charles Edward Burrows/Burrowes was visiting his two aunts at 5.1 Mallow St., Limerick - they were Mary R. Burrows, a maternal nurse,  and Margaret D. Burrows. The parents of Mary, Margaret and James Francis Burrowes were Mary Burrowes and Charles Burrowes - this Charles Burrowes had been born in Burrenure, Co. Clare.  Present at James Francis Burrowes' funeral in Limerick in 1927 were other siblings - Moses Burrowes, and two sisters, Mary and Gretta.
    Charles Edward Burrowes later emigrated to New York 1925 and worked as a chauffeur in Queens. He was naturalised on May 25th 1944, and gave an address at 161-03 29th Avenue, Flushing, New York.
     He married a woman named Nora (possibly Nora Fitzgerald - there's a record of a Charles E. Burrowes marrying a woman named Fitzgerald in Birmingham, UK, in September 1924),  and they had three children in the States.  Charles was born in NYC in 1926, David in Connecticut in 1927, James in NYC in 1928 and Mary in New York in 1930.

4)  William Schomberg Gale was born in Limerick on 20th July 1868.  (William Schomberg was William of Orange's right-hand man at the Battle of the Boyne.) William S. Gale married a Dublin woman, Mary Charlotte Thomas, in 1893 in Limerick.
(Mary Charlotte Thomas was born on 10th June 1869 to Mary Jane Rankin and Alfred John Thomas, a bootmaker of Donnybrook, Co. Dublin.  Mary Charlotte had siblings galore - William John Gideon Thomas, born 1867;  Alfred Charles Thomas born 1871;  Susan Georgina Thomas born 1873.;  Willilam Thomas born 1872.  Another sister, Jeannie/Jennie Thomas was living with William S. Gale and Mary Charlotte in Limerick in  1911.  She had been born as Jane Delamere/Delamore Thomas at 50 Geraldine street, Dublin in 1878.  Eleanor was born in 1880 at Dominick St., Richard George Thomas was born in 1877, Agnes Maude in 1875.)

William Schomberg Gale worked for the Post Office, like his brothers-in-law, William Thomas Ormston and James Frances Burrowes, and like his own brothers, John Thomas Gale and Henry Fitzgerald Gale.
In 1901 he and his wife, Mary Charlotte, were living at 26 Mulgrave Street with their four young children  -  Lilian Alice aged 6,  William Norman aged 5, Mary Adelaide aged 3, and Henry Schomberg aged 1.
Two of Mary Charlotte's sisters were either living with them or visiting - Agnes Maude Thomas, a re-toucher, and Jeaney Delamore Thomas.

They had moved along the street to No. 33 by 1911 and one of their children, Lilian Alice Gale, has died.   She died, aged 10, in 1905.
Jennie Thomas, Mary Charlotte's sister, is still there with them, single and working as a chemist's assistant.  She was 23, although ten years earlier, the census return had her at 19.

William Schomberg Gale's son, William N. Gale, may well have married his first cousin, Vida Adelaide Cooke (the daughter of Alice Maria Gale) , in Edmonton, Middlesex,  in 1919.

5)  Annabella Gale was born in Limerick on 22nd February 1871, but she died the same year.

6)  The family spent a number of years in Kerry where a son, John Thomas Gale, named after his father, was born in the Cahirciveen area on 25th August 1873.
    John Thomas Gale married Margaret Dwyer in Roscrea, Tipperary in 1906, and he converted to Catholicism accordingly.
    He worked for the Post Office, and by 1911, the couple had two children, 4-year-old John Joseph Gale, and 2-year-old Henry Norman Gale.  The Limerick Chronicle records a third child - 'Birth 9th April 1916 - 'Gale - On the 9th inst., at 5 Crescent-avenue, the wife of J. T. Gale, of a son.'
    John Thomas Gale died young and his obituary appeared in The Limerick Chronicle of 15th August 1918:
    'Death of Mr. J.T. Gale:  We deeply regret to announce the death of Mr. John  T. Gale which took place at the residence of his father-in-law, Mr. T. O'Dwyer, Bansha, on Tuesday morning.  The deceased had been ailing for some months past, and his demise at an early age has occasioned keen regret in the city, and much sympathy is extended to his wife and young family in their affliction.  He was connected with the clerical staff of the General Post Office for a period of twenty-nine years, and in that capacity was held in the highest esteem by the authorities and his colleagues. For a number of years he was president of the Limerick Branch of the Irish Association of Postal Clerks, a position in which he displayed an intimate knowledge of the working of the service, and in which his counsel was always accepted by his confreres. Mr. Gale was brother-in-law of Mr. Thomas O'Dwyer, Chairman of Tipperary Boards of Guardians, and manager of Bansha Creamery.  The funeral took place today, for internment in the family burying-place, Tipperary, and was largely attended.'

(Note:  Bansha, where the younger John Thomas Gale died in 1918, is only a few kilometers away from Kilshane where Henry Culbert, who was John's maternal uncle, was living when he married Anne Allen in 1869.)

7)  Harriet Annabella Gale was born in Cahirciveen on 22nd October 1875.  She married William Thomas Ormston, a post office worker from Clare.  He had been born on 25th November 1867 to John Ormston and Frances Taylor of Corrofin.
Harriet/Harriat and William Thomas Ormston must have married in about 1898, but I can find no record of this.
By the time of the 1901 Census they are living at 25 Mulgrave Street with two young Limerick-born children, Frederick William Ormston and Ethel Victoria.
By 1911, they were living at 14 St. John's Avenue with 4 extra children for the collection, although Ethel Victoria seems to have died.  By 1911 the children were William Thomas aged 12, Vida Annabella aged 8, Mary Francis aged 7, Hilda Alice aged 4, John Henry aged 2 and Arthur Cecil aged 1.
Harriet's sister, Rebecca Adelaide Burrowes, lived at No. 10, while her other sister, the widowed Lizzie Hill, lived at No. 12.   The sisters' parents, John Thomas Gale and Maria Culbert, lived around the corner at 27 Mulgrave Street. Yet another of the Gale sisters, Francis Eakins and her family, were living at 29 Mulgrave Street, while their brother, William Schomberg Gale and his family, were at 33 Mulgrave Street.

    Funeral Report for William Thomas Ormston,  28th February 1918, Limerick Chronicle:
'Funeral of W.T. Ormston.  The funeral of the late Mr. W.T. Ormston, GPO, whose premature demise is so deeply regretted by a wide circle of friends in the city, took place on Tuesday afternoon from his residence,  2 Grattan Villas, to St. Mary's Cathedral.   It was very large and representative, and testified to the deep sympathy  felt with the widow and family of the deceased in the great loss they have sustained.  The Post Master, Chief Clerk, Superintendent of Telegraphs, and the general staffs were represented, and the wreaths of which there were many, included those from the Post Office, with which the deceased was connected for over thirty years,  and where he was held in the hightest esteem and regard.
    The chief mourners were - Fred, Cecil and Jack Ormston, sons;  Charlie Ormston, brother;  James and William Ormston, uncles;  William, Thomas and Henry Gale, James Burrowes, and John Galbraith, V. Moorehead, brothers-in-law;  Fanny, Mollie and Suzie Ormston, sisters;  Vida, Ethel, May and Hilda,  daughters of the deceased;  Mrs. Hill, Mrs. Gale, Mrs. Burrowes, and Mrs. Eakins, sisters-in-law.
    Canon Waller was the officiating clergyman.'


8)  By 1878 John and Maria Gale had returned from Kerry to Limerick and have settled there permanently. Their daughter, Fanny/Frances Gale, was born here on 19th April 1878.
     Frances married Henry Albert Eakins, a neighbour on Mulgrave Street, in Limerick in early 1904.
 From The Limerick Chronicle:   Marriages (May 1904) - 'Eakins and Gale - On the 24th instant, at Trinity Church, Limerick, by Rev. J.T. Waller M.A., Henry Albert, youngest son of the late George Eakins of 4 Grattan Villas to Frances (Fanny), youngest daughter of  J.T.Gale, 2 Grattan Villas.'
By 1911 Henry Albert Eakins and Frances Gale had moved to 29 Mulgrave Street along with Henry's widowed mother.  Their children were Eric George Eakins aged 5,       Jessie Irene aged 3 and Violet Whyte Eakins aged 1.

   'At her residence, 4 Grattan Villas, Limerick, July 14th, 1917, Agnes, widow of the late George Eakins, aged 84 years.  Funeral for St. Munchin's.'

9) Finally, the couple's youngest son, Henry Fitzgerald Gale, was born in Limerick in about 1881.
    He worked as a sorting clerk and telegraphist in the Post Office.  I don't think he ever married.

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The father of the teacher, John Thomas Gale (1839 - 1913), who married, on 21st May 1861, Maria Culbert (1840 -1911), was William Gale of the neighbouring counties of Laois and Carlow.
Maria Culbert was the sister of our paternal great-great grandfather, Henry Culbert/Cuthbert.

John Thomas Gale's father, William Gale, married Eliza Baldwin in 1832.

(A William Gale was buried in Killeshin Parish on the Laois/Carlow border on 16th May 1897;  his address at the time of his death was Dublin St., Carlow town, however, this was actually a different William Gale, a tailor who married Ellen Patterson in Carlow in 1850, and whose family was associated with both Dublin St and Burrin St.  His brother married an Elizabeth who died in Carlow town in 1886 - the tailor, William Gale, was present at her death.

Two of our William Gale and Eliza Baldwin's children were known to have been born in neighbouring Laois - John Thomas in about 1839, and his sister, Alice Hasset, born in 1845, so it's likely that our branch of the Gales originated in Laois, rather than Carlow, where there is no trace of them on the 1901 census.
Along with John Thomas Gale, who had been born to William Gale and Eliza Baldwin in Laois/Queen's County in 1839, there were the following children:

1) On 30th May 1854, Annabella Gale (1835 - 1868) the daughter of William Gale, a farmer of Carlow, married the scripture reader, William Winton of St.Mary's, Kilkenny.  William's father was John Winton, a shoemaker at the time of his son's marriage to Annabella; the witnesses were Ulysses Thorpe, a carpenter,  and William Gale.
William Winton had been born in Ireland in 1831;  his father, an English soldier, took him to Gibraltar, before returning to Ireland in 1842.  William Winton was a shoemaker like his father before him, and an evangelical preacher/scripture reader. By 1852, two years before his marriage to Annabella Gale, William was working in the Irish Church Mission in Knocktopher, Kilkenny.  By 1861, the family had moved to London.
Annabella Winton, née Gale, died in 1868 in Kensington, London, and William Winton married again.

2) On 23rd August 1859,  Harriet Baldwin Gale, the daughter of William Gale, a scripture reader of Carlow, married John Benjamin Warren of Bagenalstown, Carlow.  John Benjamin Warren was a clerk of the petty sessions, as was his father, Edward Warren.  Harriet Gale was a schoolteacher (like her brother, John Thomas Gale) at the time of her marriage, and was living in Borris, Co. Carlow.
The witnesses were William Aylward and William Gale.

Harriet and John Benjamin Warren had children in Bagenalstown, some of whom were registered:
Amy Harriett Warren, born 1863.
Edward Kossuth Warren, born 1863, died 1873.
Rebecca Annabella, born 1869.
John William Warren, born 1871.
John Edward Warrren, born 1876,
Josiah William Warren, born 1873.
Samuel Baldwin Warren, born 1880.
Edward Warren, born 1881.

John Benjamin Warren (1838 - 1899), died Carlow.
Harriet Baldwin Warren (1849 - 1885), died Carlow.
Their daughter, Eva Elizabeth Warren, married Frederick W. Martin, an engineer of Bagenalstown, Carlow, on June 3rd 1899.  Frederick W. Martin had been born on the Island of Jersey to the mechanic, Olef Martin.
This couple moved to England shortly after their marriage.
Other members of the Warren family of Carlow emigrated to Canada and to South Africa.


3) Samuel Baldwin Gale, son of the scripture reader, William Gale, married Mary Jane Smith  in Dunleckney, Carlow, on 19th September 1882.  Samuel Baldwin Gale was probably much older than his wife.
Mary Jane was the daughter of a gamekeeper, William Smith of Dunleckney.  Although Samuel Baldwin gave his address as Dunleckney, he was working as a tramway conductor in Dublin at the time of his marriage in 1882.
The witnesses were Edward Coburne and William Smith.

Samuel and Mary Jane had a daughter, Olivia Elizabeth Jane Gale, on 10th March 1884 in Kilcarrig, Dunleckney, Carlow.  At the time of the birth, Samuel was working as a writing clerk.  This daughter musst have died in infancy since there seems to be no further trace of her anywhere.

Samuel Baldwin Gale and his wife, Mary Jane, emigrated to New York in 1884, where they had a son, Frederick William Gale, in 1889.  Samuel died shortly after, and his widow married a second time to Prescott Burnham of Massachusetts.  In 1900, however, Frederick W. Gale, aged 10, was living in the Orphan Asylum Society in New York.
His mother, Mary Jane Gale, married Prescott Burnham on 8th October 1904 in Manhattan. The groom's parents were John Burnham and Patience W. Sampson;  Mary Jane's were noted as William Smith and Jane Louise Ussher.  They were living in Manhattan in 1920, along with Mary's son, Frederick William Gale, but by 1930, Prescott has died, and Mary Jane and Frederick were alone in the household.


4) Alice Baldwin Gale (1845 - 1927) and Thomas Hasset married in Limerick in 1871.
Alice and Thomas Hassett appear on the 1901 Census living in Limerick at Ballinacurra with their children.  Thomas was an ironmonger/merchant who'd been born in Limerick in 1851.  (Later in 1911, Alice's brother, John Thomas Gale, worked at Hassett's Ironmongers.)
Alice Gale had been born in Queen's County/Laois in 1845. (Her brother, John Thomas Gale had also been born there.)
Thomas William Hassett, aged 28.
James Baldwin Hassett, 26.
Henry Frederick Hassett, 23.
Alice Gale Hasset, 21.
Annabella Katherine, 18.

Thomas Hassett founded Hassetts Ironmongers in Limerick, still in business today, in 1890, and in 1911 his brother-in-law, John Thomas Gale, was working for him.

Alice Baldwin Hassett, née Gale, died in Ballincurra, Limerick on 16th September 1927.

Origins of this Gale family:
Detailed early records simply don't exist to support this theory, so much conjecture is necessary for the moment.  There were few Gale Births/Deaths/Marriages for Limerick, where John Thomas Gale and his sister, Alice Hassett, settled, so I'm starting with whatever Gale records for Limerick I could stumble across, although it's important to state that I have found no definite clues as to this family's origins as yet. The following people are unlikely to be related, but genealogy involves accumulating mountains of information before discovering the correct links!

A John Gale and his wife, Alice Gale, were running the Ragged School in Limerick, and this couple appear in the street directories for the city from 1867 until 1880 at Roches Street.
Our John Thomas Gale was also running a Ragged School in the same area of Limerick in 1879 at Bowdey's Lane, and in 1884 at Glentworth Street.  John and Alice Gale are promising therefore.

Eliza Gale, the widow of Captain William Gale of Valleyfield, Ballyroan, Laois, died, aged 68, in Limerick on 25th September 1875. She had been born, therefore, in about 1807;  her husband, Captain William Gale of Valleyfield, was most likely much older, since he had a brother, Parnell Gale, who had been born in 1772, and a sister, Frances Gale, who was known to have married a member of the Kearney family in 1800. Another sibling was Captain Thomas Gale of Valleyfield.  There was also a brother, Commandant Anthony Gale of the US Marines.
These were all the children of Anthony Gale and Ann Delany of Ashfield Hall, Ballinakill, Laois/Queen's County.

From The Freeman's Journal of 1841:
'In this city, David Armstrong Esq., of Baggot Street, to Harriet Maria, fourth daughter of the late Captain Gale of Valleyfield in the Queen's County.'
(The above Captain was Captain Thomas Gale of Valleyfield.)

At Kingston, Ontario, Canada on August 15th 1843, Andrew Drummond, son of the late Robert Drummond, married Jane Ann Gale, youngest daughter of Captain Gale of Valleyfield.

Peter Gale (1804 - 1857) of Ashfield Hall, Laois, married Anna Maria Harriet Lynch, the daughter of Captain Fleeson of the 6th Dragoon Guards, in St. George's, Hanover Square, London,  in 1837.   This Peter Gale was the last of the Gale family to live at Ashfield in Laois. He also owned property in Carlow, but was forced by debt to sell up in the 1850's following the Famine.

(I only mention the above because of the following:  as already mentioned above, Parnell Gale was the brother of Captains William and Thomas Gale of Valleyfield, and an early mayor of Galway, whose son also carried this peculiar name.  It is known that the Gales of Queen's County intermarried at one stage with the Parnell family which also originated in Laois and which would later produce Charles Stewart Parnell. Hence the name Parnell Gale.
My grandfather, Bertie Stewart, told of a visit to his elderly Stewart aunts, Emily Jane, Louisa Helen, Mary Elizabeth and Catherine.  They explained a highly complex link between our family and Charles Stewart Parnell, which, later, nobody ever believed or took the time to remember clearly.  We had always assumed that, if there was a link, that it would have been through the Stewart family, but Charles Stewart Parnell's mother,the American Delia Stewart, descended from a Stewart family which had emigrated to the States from Co. Antrim, and not from Down where our Stewart family had their origins.
I wonder were the elderly aunts, therefore, referring to a complex and distant link via their sister-in-law, Rebecca Cuthbert, who had married their brother Robert Stewart? Rebecca's paternal aunt was Maria Culbert who married John Thomas Gale of Laois in 1871, and if he was a member of the Gale family of Valleyfield, then they would have been aware of his relative, Parnell Gale, and of the reasons for his given name. This requires a great deal more research, so I'm merely collecting what I have so far here....)

Edward Leviolette Wilson was born on 19th August 1872 in Edenderry, Portadown, Co. Armagh, to the grocer, Edward Wilson and Elizabeth Hinds.  His father, Edward, may have been working as a spirit merchant in Edenderry at the time of his birth, since the street directories show up an Edward Wilson, spirit merchant, resident in the town at this time.
The Wilson family made the move to Belfast shortly after Edward Leviolette's birth, but his father, the older Edward Wilson, died there on 7th May 1878, aged only 32.  At the time of his death he was living at 121 Hilland Street (which was in central Belfast close to the Donegall Road) and was still working as a grocer - his brother Joseph Wilson was present at his death.  Joseph himself died not long after.

The family stayed in Belfast following Edward's death, and were living at 40 Eblana Street in the Cromac area of the city in 1901.   It is said that the widowed Elizabeth Wilson ran a poultry farm, and she was known to travel by horse and trap in later life to Drumaghadone townland near Dromore to collect chickens for the kitchen.  Her family, the Hynds, lived in Skillyscolbane, the townland next to Drumaghadone, and her brother and sister were still living there in later life.

The 1901 Census:
Elizabeth Wilson, aged 54, widow, born Dromore, Co. Down, keeping house.
Edward Wilson (ie: Edward Leviolett Wilson),son, aged 28, Methodist, Grocer, born Portadown.
Lillie Wilson, Daughter, aged 24, Draper, born Portadown, Co. Armagh.
Richard Wilson (also known as Richard William Wilson), son, aged 23, born Co. Armagh.
Florrie Curry (ie: Currie), granddaughter, aged 5, Church of Ireland, born Bangor. (This was the daughter of Annie Wilson who was married to John Currie.)


Edward Leviolette Wilson married Agnes Jane Anderson on 21st August 1901 in Westbourne Presbyterian Church, Knockbreda, Belfast.  Both were still at home with their parents, Edward at 40 Eblana Street, and Agnes Jane at 412 Woodstock Road, East Belfast.  Her parents were William John Anderson and Agnes Keating.
The witnesses to the wedding were Edward's widowed mother, Elizabeth Wilson (née Hynds) and Agnes Jane's brother, Samuel Anderson, who was a pawnbroker.

Agnes Jane Anderson had been born on 25th March 1881 in 56 Templemore Avenue. My father recalls that she had lost an eye in childhood during a snowball fight.  Her husband, Edward Leviolette Wilson, had a grocery shop on the Albertbridge Road and was well-known for giving credit - later, when the IRA tried to murder him, the local women rallied round and saved him from assassination, purely because of his generosity. He was unable to turn away a sick animal or someone in need, although my father remembers him as being remarkably tight-fisted at home.  He grew vegetables in the back garden of the family home, Croom, on the Ravenhill Road, and kept chickens there too.
I believe Edward retired from business when his grocery shop on the Albertbridge Rd was bombed during the Belfast Blitz in 1941.  My father, Paul, and his younger brother, Anthony, lived with Edward Leviolette and Agnes Jane, during the war while his father, Bertie Stewart, was stationed in England with the RAF.

Edward Leviolette Wilson died of a cerebral haemorrhage in the Claremont Hospital, Belfast, on 7th June 1953.  Following his death, his widow, Agnes Jane, moved out to Dundonald.
Agnes Jane, died of a traffic accident in Dundonald on 30th July 1961.

In 1911, Edward Leviolette Wilson and Agnes Jane were living at 357 Woodstock Road, three doors down from Agnes Jane's father, William John Anderson, who was living at No. 360.   (By 1911, the widowed William John Anderson, who had previously worked as a pawnbroker, had become a cycle agent.)

The Wilson Family 1924.  Left to right: Doreen, Vera, Ernest,  Edward Leviolett Wilson,  Edward, Edna, Agnes Jane Anderson, Ronald, Nessie and Kay.  The photo was kindly sent to me by Edward Junior's son, Stuart Wilson.

Their children of Edward and Agnes Jane were:

1) Elizabeth Catherine/Kathleen Wilson (March 1904 - 15th February 1970.)  She was always known as Kay, and would later marry a policeman, Edward/Ted Watts.  At the time of her death in 1970, she was living at 11 Slievecorragh Avenue, Newcastle, Co. Down.

2)  Agnes Keating Wilson, our paternal grandmother.
   
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Agnes Jane with her daughter, our grandmother Nessie Stewart.  Taken in the 1930s.

     Edward worked, first, as a catering manager for Martin's Bakery, then as a travelling salesman for JW Greig & Co.
     Edward and Mary Ann Wilson lived, from 1950 to 1970 at 81 Grove St., Edinburgh.  Their children were Edward Lyall Wilson, Stuart Aexander Wilson and Alison Jane Anderson Wilson.

4)  Mary Veronica Wilson (6th Setember 1910 - 9th September 2002.)  She married Jack Brooks, who worked in the bank, then as a fruit juice salesman.  Their children were Ingrid Brooks and Colin Brooks.

5)  Margaret Doreen Wilson, known as Doreen (1912 - September 2005.) Doreen was married to the building contractor, Bob McNeill (Robert John Holmes McNeill);  they lived in Weybridge, Surrey, England.  They had Jennifer McNeill and Nicholas McNeill.

6)  Edna Isobel Wilson ( 1916 - 24th April 1998.)  Edna never married.  Following her father's death in 1953, she and her widowed mother, Agnes Jane, moved south to Dundonald, where we visited her in about 1969. I remember chickens in the garden next door and a ceramic hot water bottle in the bed I shared with Auntie Edna. She remained in close contact with her sister, Nessie, who died of encephalitis in Dublin in 1965.   In later life, Edna moved further south to Annalong on the Co. Down coast where her brother, Ernest, lived with his wife Essie, and daughter, Deborah.

Edna (to the right) visiting us at home in Dublin in the early 1960's.  With her is her friend, Betty Mackle, and our cousin, Janice Stewart.

7)  Ernest W. Wilson (1919 - 5th February 1996.)  Ernest married Nettie Beattie who emigrated to Canada along with their two daughters, Carol Wilson and Janice Wilson.  He married again - his second wife was Esther/Essie (1918 - 19th December 1994).  Ernest and Essie had one daughter, Deborah Wilson.  Both Ernest and Essie lived in Annalong, Co. Down.

Ernest Wilson with his sister, our grandmother Nessie Stewart,  and her springer spaniel,  Kerry.  The photo was taken  in the early 1960s in Claddaghduff, Connemara.

Taken in Sweeney's pub, Claddaghduff:  left to right - Bertie Stewart,  our dad  Paul Stewart, Ernest Wilson and Nessie Stewart.

8)  Richard Ronald K. Wilson (1921 - May 1971.) Ronald, who worked for the Firestone Tyre Company,  married Mary Robertson who had been born on 2nd May 1927 to Frank Robertson and Jean Lyall.  They had Richard Wilson and Katherine Wilson.

This is a continuation of an earlier post;  I'll add more as I find it....
http://alison-stewart.blogspot.ie/2011/11/moore-family-of-rosscarbery.html

Sir Emanuel Moore, the 9th Baronet, was born in 1786 in Cork and died in Castletown, Isle of Man, on 23rd May 1849.  He was the son of Sir Richard Moore and Jane Travers, both of Cork
On 28th September 1809, he married Ellen Gillman (1790 - circa 1844).

Their children were:
1)  Sir Richard Emanuel Moore, 10th Baronet (18th August 1810, Maryborough, Cork - 23rd June 1882).  He married Mary Anne O'Connor (born 1815, Kilgobbin House, Cork).

2)  Alleyne Moore, 1811 - 25th October 1842 in Clonmel, Tipperary.

3) Charles Moore, born circa 1812 in Cork, emigrated to the USA at some stage. Charles Moore's son was named as the heir presumptive to his nephew, Sir Thomas O'Connor Moore, the 11th Baronet, who was the son of the 10th Baronet.

4)  Jane Moore, born 1813.

5)  Maskylene Alcock Moore, born 1815.

6) Herbert Gillman Moore, born 1818 in Cork, died 20th August 1872 in Dublin.  He married, in Dublin in 1851, Mary Courtenay, the sister of our great-great-great grandmother, Emily Courtenay.  Herbert and Mary's son, Walter Emanuel Moore, married his first cousin, Anna-Maria Pennefather, who was the sister of our great-great grandmother, Isabella Anna Pennefather.

http://alison-stewart.blogspot.ie/2012/06/mary-courtenay-and-herbert-gilman-moore.html

7) Hastings Percival Moore, born 1820.

8)  Catherine Moore, born 1822.

9)  William Moore, born 1824.

The 10th baronet Sir Richard Emanuel Moore:
Richard Emanuel Moore married Mary Ann O'Connor in 1839, the daughter of Arthur Ryan O'Connor of Kilgobbin House,  Cork.  Their children were:
  a) Richard Henry Percival O'Connor Moore (1839 - 1857).
  b)  Margaret Helena Moore (1844 - 1846).
  c)  Sir Thomas O'Connor Moore, 11th Baronet (1845 - 1926)
  d)  Stephen O'Connor Moore, emigrated.  Stephen Moore was the heir apparent of his brother, Thomas, but the heir presumptive was named as the son of Charles Moore who was the son of the 9th Baronet, Emanuel Moore.  The heir presumptive was generally the next-in-line to the heir apparent and would take the title if the heir apparent died young.

Richard Emanuel Moore's first wife, Mary Ann, died in May 1847 at Bandon;  she died of fever at the height of the Great Famine.  Later, in August of the same year, Richard Emanuel's aunt, Anne Moore, daughter of Sir Richard Emanuel and Anne Travers, died at her residence in Glanmire Road, Cork
Richard Emanuel Moore, 10th Baronet, married a second time, to Margaret Matilda O'Connor (1815 - 1898), sister to the MP Feargus O'Connor and to the barrister, Thomas Forrest O'Connor.  Margaret's father was Roger O'Connor, whose brother was Arthur O'Connor.  Margaret may therefore have been the first cousin of Richard Emanuel Moore's first wife, Mary Anne O'Connor.
(O'Connor, Feargus 1794-1855, Chartist leader, son of Roger O'Connor of Connorville, co. Cork, and nephew of Arthur O'Connor, was born on 18 July 1794.)
The son of Magaret Matilda and Richard Emanuel Moore was named Emanuel Adolphus Moore (1854 - 1874).        The Index to Registration records the death of an Emanuel O'Connor Moore - 1854 - 1874 - in Cork.  Could be the same man.

Sir Thomas O'Connor Moore, 11th Baronet:
Sir Emanuel Moore was known to have mortgaged his Cork family estates to such an extent that they had to be sold off in the Landed Estates Court of the late 1840s. The 10th Baronet, Sir Richard Emanuel Moore, was known to have fallen on hard times, and worked as a prison officer, first at Spike Island, Cork, and then in Dublin. His son, the 11th Baronet, Sir Thomas O'Connor Moore, was likewise lacking in money.
From The New York Times of May 17th 1899:  'London, May 16 - Sir Thomas O'Connor Moore, 11th Baronet, who succeeded his father, Sir Richard Emanuel Moore, in 1882, has been ejected from his lodgings owing to his inability to pay a shilling for a week's accommodation.  The heir to the title is his brother Stephen, now living abroad.  Although the heir apparent to the Baronetcy of Moore (creation 1681) of Ross Carbery, Cork, is Mr. Stephen Moore, brother of the present Baronet, the heir presumptive is the eldest son of the late Mr. Charles Moore of a collateral branch, who left Ireland for the United States some years ago.  Mr. Charles Moore was a son of the late Emanuel Moore, the 9th Baronet.'

Sir Thomas O'Connor Moore was noted on the 1911 Census at 36 Wellington Road, Cork, along with his wife, Katherine Matilda, who had been born Katherine Matilda Elphinstone.  They had been married three years but had no children.  Both had been born in Cork.  They were Catholic although Katherine had been born Protestant.
Katherine was the daughter of John George Elphinstone, a merchant with the East India Company, who lived at Aberdeen and Passage West, Cork.  In 1839 he married Catherine Vereker Pain, the daughter of the architect George Richard Pain who, along with his brother James Pain, was a pupil of the English architect John Nash.  George Richard Pain and his brother came to Ireland in the late eighteenth century, James settling in Limerick and George Richard in Cork.  George Richard Pain built St. Patricks Church on the Lower Glanmire Road amongst others.
John George Elphinstone, captain of the 'British Queen', died in Port Glasgow in 1838 and his widow gave birth to a daughter early the following year.  This must be Katherine Matilda Howard Elphinstone who married, in 1908, Thomas O'Connor Moore, although she lies outrageously about her age on both the censuses!
Katherine's widowed mother, Kate Elphinstone, married the curate of St.Anne's, Cork, the Rev. Richard Tottenham, and the 1851 census for Co. Antrim captured the family in Killead, Co. Antrim.  They had  a daughter born in Cork - Belinda aged 5 - and two young children born in Antrim - Edward aged 2 and Sarah aged 1.  13 year old Catherine Elphinstone was also present.
Kate Matilda Elphinstone, the daughter of the late Captain John George Elphinstone,  married John Monteeth Howard, the son of Richard Howard, in Limerick City on 22nd January 1859.   They appeared on the 1901 census - John Howard was a Limerick-born civil engineer, while Catherine called herself 'Catalina'.
John must have died sometime after, and the widowed Katherine Matilda Elphinstone Howard married Sir Thomas O'Connor Moore in Cork in 1908.  On the 1911 census, she stated her age to be 45, although in reality she was 73!  Her husband, Thomas O'Connor Moore, was 66.

This post is to help clarify and decipher the Courtenay family.  Frederick and Mary Courtenay were our maternal great-great-great-great grandparents.  It seems that Frederick was the son of the Shearman, Thomas Courtenay, who had been admitted to the Freedom of Dublin in 1789.

http://alison-stewart.blogspot.ie/2012/03/the-courtenay-family-of-dublin-and.html

The Children of Frederick and Mary Courtenay:  

1) Emily Courtenay, who married John Pennefather, baptised 27th February 1828, lived at 45 Moore Street.
  http://alison-stewart.blogspot.ie/2011/07/john-pennefather-and-emily-courtenay.html

2) William Courtenay, baptised 20th March 1829, born at 157 Gt.Britain St.

3) Adelaide Anne Courtenay, baptised 10th August 1831, born at 47 Moore Street.  Adelaide Anne Courtenay married a commercial clerk, George Hall the son of Andrew Hall on 12th October 1851. John Pennefather and Henry Reynolds witnessed the marriage in the Black Church.
The Hall family:  George Hall had been born to Andrew Hall in Bray, Co.Wicklow.  Adelaide Anne Courtenay and George Hall, following their marriage in 1851, had children:
Emily Hall born 26th June 1852 at 31 Wellington Street.
Evelina Anne Hall (possibly known as Mary later) born 5th January 1857 at 6 Middle Mountjoy Street, the family's permanent address from this point.
Georgina Hall born 29th February1860.
Adelaide Anne Hall, born 9th September 1862.
Matilda Hall born 7th July 1865.
Frederick William Hall born 24th September 1867.
 Albert Andrew Hall born 11th January 1872.

By the time of Frederick William Hall's birth, his father, George Hall, who had earlier been a commercial clerk, was listed as a railway clerk.  By the time of the 1901 census, George was a coal merchant.
Daughter Matilda Hall, of 6 Middle Mountjoy St., married William Egan Ussher of 21 Glengarriffe Parade, South Circular Road (father: Joseph Ussher) on 9th April 1890.   The witnesses to the wedding were Emilie Lunny and Robert Mottershed - Robert Mottershed was married to Isabella Alexandra Jones, the daughter of  
Isabella Anne (Pennefather) Jones, who was the niece of Adelaide Anne Courtney.

In 1901, the widowed Matilda Hall Usher (spelt with either one 's' or two) was living at 50 Mountjoy St., with her widowed father, George Hall, coal merchant, and with two of her unmarried sisters, Georgina aged 38 and Emily aged 44.  An aunt, Anne J.Brown, aged 83, was visiting. (Born Anne J. Hall?).
Her brother, Albert Andrew Hall, was living at 9 Sydney Avenue, Blackrock: he was an accountant, unmarried and living with two of his single sisters, the telegraphist, Adelaide, and Mary Hall.
Frederick Hall was a boarder in a boarding house in Westland Row and was working as a commission agent.
By 1911, Matilda Usher was living at 16 Cabra Road, Glasnevin with Emily, Mary and Adelaide.
Her brother, Albert Andrew Hall, married Eveline Beatrice Forster in 1901, and had become the secretary of a limited company - the couple were living at 29 Corrig Avenue, Dunlaoghaire, then called Kingstown, in 1911.


4) Mary Courtenay, baptised 12th May 1830, lived at 47 Moore Street. She married Herbert Gilman Moore, son of Emanuel Moore of Rosscarbery, Cork.
   http://alison-stewart.blogspot.ie/2012/06/mary-courtenay-and-herbert-gilman-moore.html

Other children of Frederick and Mary Courtenay, 27 Wellington Street, whose birth records I've failed to discover, would be:
5) Eliza Courtenay/Courtney and  - possibly -
6) Thomas Courtney who would have been born circa 1840.
  http://alison-stewart.blogspot.ie/2012/06/mary-courtenay-and-herbert-gilman-moore.html
 http://alison-stewart.blogspot.ie/2012/10/thomas-courtenay-and-mary-brown-royal.html
Eliza Courtenay (born circa 1826, possibly and most likely to Frederick and Mary Courtenay of 27 Wellington St) married a policeman, William Yorke, and had children in Dublin, most of them born at 27 Wellington St.
An Elizabeth Yorke died in North Dublin and her death was registered as 1821 - 1888.

The children of Eliza Courtenay and William Yorke were all born at 27 Wellington Street, and were baptised in St. Mary's Church:

Henry Francis Yorke, born 11th January 1846.  Henry converted to Catholicism the day before his marriage.  He was baptised in the Pro-Cathedral on 5th June 1893, and the following day he married Catherine Byrne, the daughter of John Byrne and Eliza Corcoran of Harolds Cross.  Both bride and groom gave their address as 26 Hill Street.
By 1911, Henry - a horse dealer - was widowed, and was living at 11 St.Anthony's Place, Dublin, with a collection of children.  There was a son, Henry F. Yorke, born circa 1894 to Henry and Catherine,  and two step-daughters - Elizabeth Rothery, born circa 1888, and Catherine Rothery, born circa 1890.  A younger girl, Margaret Rothery, who had been born in about 1892, was named as a daughter, rather than a step-daughter.
Catherine's first husband had been Isaac Rothery (1854 - 1892), the son of Isaac Rothery and Sarah Doyle of Churchtown.  The couple had married in Rathmines on 4th June 1888.  The witnesses had been Joseph Rothery and Elizabeth Smith.  Isaac's father, Isaac Rothery, had been a policeman, who had been born circa 1834 in King's Co/Offaly, and who had enlisted in 1850.


Thomas Frederick Yorke, born 14th February 1848.  Thomas York of 80 Lower Camden Street married Alice Halpin, the daughter of Thomas Halpin and Alice Dillon, on  20th August 1871 in Harrington Street Catholic church.

William Rowland Yorke, born 17th June 1850.

Adelaide Julia Yorke, born 16th August 1851.

Elizabeth Sarah was born 17th April 1853.

Emily Yorke, born 3rd January 1856. (Add link) She married a cousin, William Courtney/Courtenay, son of Thomas Courtenay of Kilmainham.

George Albert Yorke, born 16th April 1861. His father, William Yorke was now noted as a carriage painter, rather than a policeman.  A George Yorke, who had been married 20 years to a woman named Elizabeth Hoey, was living at 25.3 Wellington Street in 1911, along with his 14 year old son, Thomas F. Yorke.
A Thomas Yorke of 53 Lower Wellington Street, Dublin, enlisted into the Forage Department of the Army Service Corps at the outset of the First World War.

Jane Yorke, born 17th October 1864 - her father, William, was working as a house painter.

Notes on Thomas Courtenay who witnessed the wedding of Sabina Jane Moore and Walter John Woodward in Dublin in 1877:

From the LDS site:  Sergeant Thomas Courtenay, born St. Andrews, Dublin, on 26th March 1824, married Mary Browne in Dublin in 1859 (she was Catholic, so the wedding would have been R.C., therefore would not have been registered);   Thomas Courtenay died at Royal Hospital, Kilmainhamm on March 20th 1895.

I wonder was this Thomas Courtenay the same man who was admitted to the Freemen of Dublin on 16th July 1863, being the grandson of Thomas Courtenay, Shearmen, who had been admitted in 1789, although the this man was named as Thomas Frederick Courtenay.  This Thomas Frederick Courtenay was a yeoman of the Royal Hospital in Kilmainham in 1863, and was named there on the Dublin Electoral Lists of 1865.  Thomas is most likely a son of our direct ancestors, Frederick and Mary Courtenay of 27 Wellington Street.  We descend, therefore, directly from his sister, Emily, who would marry John Lysaght Pennefather.

The Royal Hospital in Kilmainham had been founded as a home for retired military men,  and military members of the Hospital staff were provided with apartments for themselves and their families.

 Thomas Courtenay, married to Maria Browne, lived at the Royal Hospital and the christenings of his children are recorded on the Irish Genealogy website. The family were Catholic - if Thomas were another member of our Courtenay family, then he must have converted when he married Maria Browne.  Their children were mostly baptised in the Church of St. James;  the childrens' names mirror the names of the children of Mary Courtenay and Herbert Moore which makes me suspect a family link:

1)  I haven't come across christening records for this child, but the records of Westminster School, London, show up Frederick William Courtenay, born 28th January 1859 to Thomas Courtenay of Dublin. He was admitted as an 'exhibitioner' on May 30th 1872, and then into St. Peters in 1873.  He left the school in May 1876, and briefly attended Trinity College, Dublin, before dying at the age of 20 in April 1879.

2)  William Courtenay was baptised in 1860 at St.Mary's, Haddington Road.  William, who was Protestant later, married  Emily Yorke in about 1886.
 Emily Yorke had been born on 3rd January 1856 to a policeman, William Yorke, and to Eliza Courtney - her address at the time of her birth in 1856 was 27 Wellington St, the home of the Courtenay family, which seems to further link the family of Thomas Courtenay to the family of our direct ancestors, Frederick and Mary Courtenay.  Eliza Courtney/Courtenay was most likely a daughter of Frederick and Mary Courtenay of 27 Wellington Street - if this is the case, then William Courtenay and Emily Yorke were first cousins.

William Courtenay and Emily Yorke had three children in Dublin - Robert William Henry Courtenay was born on 27th May 1892 at 2 Avondale Road.  (William's sister, Adelaide, was living at 3 Avondale Road in 1900.)   On 12th May 1894, at 45 Avondale Road, the couple had Dorothy Mary Elizabeth Courtenay.  Finally, on 2nd December 1897,  at 24 Hardwicke Street, they had Sylvia Eugenie Adelaide Courtenay.
      William and his wife, Emily, were living at 12 Broadstone Avenue, Dublin, in 1911;  William was an asylum attendant.  Also in the house was his younger brother, the widowed Thomas Courtenay, a musician. Thomas was present with his 18 year old son, Thomas, who had been born in India.  See below....
     Emily Courtenay died at 2 Avondale Road, North Circular Rd., Dublin, on 10th November 1933.

3)  Mary Ellen Courtney of the Royal Hospital, baptised 11th November 1861;  the sponsors were Patrick and Mary Ellen Dwyer.

4) Thomas Courtenay was born 12th May 1865.  Thomas was a musician with the military and was posted to Lucknow, Bengal, where he married in Chunar, on 4th November 1891,  Ann McDonald, the daughter of Henry McDonald.   The marriage record records that Thomas was the son of Thomas Courtenay, and that he had been born in  1865.   Ann had been born in 1872.    Their son, Thomas Courtenay, was born in Lucknow, Bengal, on 25th January 1894.  Following Ann's death,  Thomas and his son, Thomas Junior, returned to Dublin, where they were recorded living (or visiting) with Thomas' brother, William, in 1911. (See above.)

5)  Robert Benjamin Courtenay, born 11th November 1866.  Robert was a military man, and was posted to  Fyzabad, Bengal, India where, on 21st November 1891, he married Edith Pant, the daughter of a John Pant.
    The Indian Army Quarterly List of 1st January 1912, recorded Robert Benjamin Courtenay as a warrant officer in the barrack department in Allahabad, Bengal.
        'The London Gazette' of 19th May 1916, recorded Robert Benjamin Courtenay under its heading for the Indian Army Departments as - "To be Assistant Commissary, with the honorary rank of Lieutenant. Conductor Robert Benjamin Courtenay. Dated 8th February 1916."
        The widowed Edith Courtenay, who had been born circa 1878,  died on 10th September 1936 in Lucknow, Bengal.

6)  Emilia/Emily Courtney was born 10th December 1868, at Royal Hospital.  The sponsors were Robert Courtney and Julia Doyle.
      An Emilia Courtney, daughter of Thomas, married Thomas Gallagher, son of Terence, in 1889.
      The sponsor, Robert Courtney, may well have been the Robert Courtenay Junior who was also admitted to the Freemen of Dublin in 1857 by virtue of being the grandson of the original Thomas Courtenay, Shearman, although this Robert Courtney would have had to be Catholic, since only Catholics were permitted to be sponsors in Catholic christenings.

7)  Edward Courtenay of Royal Hospital, was baptised on 18th September 1872 and was sponsored by Elizabeth McCabe.

8)  Adelaide Courtenay of Royal Hospital, was baptised on 26th December 1874 and was sponsored by Patrick and Maria McCabe.
     On 19th September 1901,  Adelaide Courtenay married the Co. Down widower, James Clifford, in Grangegorman Church of Ireland church.   This was James' second marriage - the first had been to Charlotte Matilda Wright, the daughter of Frederick Wright, a caretaker who lived at 71 Rathmines Road.  James, a policeman, was stationed at the time in Dundrum.
It seems that the Courtenay children, although baptised Catholic, were reared Protestant, since yet another of Thomas and Mary Courtenay's children had reverted to the Church of Ireland by adulthood.  James was a sergeant with the Royal Irish Constabulary, and was living in Bray, Co. Wicklow at the time of his Church of Ireland marriage to Adelaide.  His father was a farmer, William John Clifford.  Adelaide's address was given as 3 Avondale Road, Phibsboro.  Her father was a clerk, Thomas Courtenay, and the witnesses were a Meta Stringer and what seems to be James Smyth Mac Sighe.  A few months later, the 1901 census picks the newly-weds up at Fairview Terrace in Bray, Co. Wicklow, where Adelaide was living with her husband and his five children.
     A lady's maid named Sarah Courtenay, aged 22 (the age is wildly inaccurate however) and unmarried, was also in the household, and was stated to be a cousin of the head of the household, James Clifford.   This must surely be Adelaide's younger sister, Sarah.

9)  Sarah Courtenay of Royal Hospital was baptised on 27th November 1876 and was sponsored by Sarah Fulds.   See above.

10)  Sabina Courtenay was baptised on May 23rd 1879 and was sponsored by Michael and Maria Baxter. Sabina, a dressmaker, moved to England where she, in 1900 in Lambeth,  married a civil servant, Frederick Temple Martin, who had been born in 1868 in Lambeth, London, to Temple Chevallier Martin and Elizabeth Mary Parkyn.

    The couple had three children - Bina Elizabeth Martin, born 1900 in Lambeth and baptised in Lambeth All Saints Church on November 16th 1900 (the family were living then at 41 Jeffries Road),  Alice Courtenay Martin, born 1906 in Surbiton, and Temple Chevallier Martin who had been born in 1909 in Lambeth.
     In 1901, Sabina Martin was living with her 5-month old daughter, Bina E. Martin, in a flat at Herne Hill, Lambeth, while Frederick was at home with his father and brothers. He, oddly, stated on the census return that he was single, not married.   Something fishy is going on here.
It seems that Sabina (sometimes spelt Subina) and Frederick separated, since the 1911 census showed Frederick living with the three children at 183 King's Avenue, Clapham, while Sabina was living at 164 Barcombe Avenue, Wandsworth, Streathem.  She had filled the return out twice.  The first entry was scribbled out, and read 'Subina Elizabeth Martin, aged 30, married 11 years, 4 children born alive, 3 surviving.'   She filled out the second line as 'Subina Courtenay, single, dressmaking.'   In actual fact, the first entry shows a slightly different handwriting from the second.  Whoever filled the return out, Sabina Courtenay was listed on the electoral registers at this same address for the next few years.  She died in Streathem in 1933, this according to the LDS website.   I wonder were the couple covering up the marriage, or perhaps they never actually married in the first place?

     Frederick Temple Martin married a second time in 1918.  Wife Number Two was Minnie Sarah Boyd who had been born in 1891 in Lambeth. They had a son, Richard Temple Martin (1921 - 1979).  Frederick Temple Martin died at 23 Cowdrag House, Dog Kennell Hill, East Dulwich, on 21st December 1933, and his widow, Minnie Sarah Martin, administered his estate.

    Temple Chevallier Martin, the son of Frederick and Sabina Martin, died at 61 Casino Avenue, Herne Hill, Surrey on 15th September 1933 and the will was proved by his uncle, a municipal officer, Piers Temple Martin who was the younger brother of Temple's father, Frederick.
 
The LDS site provides information for the children of Sabina Courtenay and Frederick Chevallier Martin. Bina Elizabeth Martin, known as Chick Martin, died in South Africa in April 1985.
     Her sister, Alice Courtenay Martin married Burton Murrell, and died in 1980 in Manapouri, Southland, New Zealand.
     The fourth child, who didn't survive infancy, was Irene Clara Martin, who had been born in London in 1903, and who had died the following year.

This post concerns further details on Courtenay intermarriages. I'll add to it if I find more.

During a recent visit to the Registry of Deeds in Henrietta Street, Dublin, I came across a deed of assignment dated 24th November 1890.
This concerned the sale of numbers 55 and 56 Blessington Street.  Our maternal great-great grandmother, Isabella Jones, was buying the property - the deed named her as Isabella Jones, of 9 Middle Mountjoy Street, wife of Charles Jones.  Charles and Isabella Jones lived at 56 Blessington Street from 1890.
Isabella was buying the property from two people - Caroline Frances Vance of 2 Upper Beechwood Avenue, and Robert Courtenay Vance of 56 Dawson Street.
On the same day, a separate deed detailed the mortgage of £300 which she acquired from the Dublin Mutual Benefit Building Society.  This was one of the earliest properties which she took on;  by the time of her death in 1940, she owned about thirty separate houses around the city.  We had  assumed that she had been compelled to turn to property development following the death of her husband in 1893, but she had evidently caught the property bug much earlier than that.

Isabella was the daughter of Emily Courtenay, and the granddaughter of Frederick and Mary Courtenay who lived at 27 Wellington St, as did a Francis Courtenay, who was admitted to the Freemen of Dublin by birth, being the son of Thomas Courtenay, Shearman.  Another individual admitted to the Freemen of Dublin was Robert Courtenay Junior 22 of Ranelagh Road, admitted as a grandson of the same Thomas Courtenay, Shearman;  Robert was the son of Robert Courtenay Senior, solicitor of Lower Gardiner Street.  Also admitted, later, as a grandson of Thomas Courtenay, Shearman, was his grandson, Thomas Courtenay of the Royal Hospital, who appears to be a son of Frederick Courtenay of 27 Wellington Street and, therefore, an uncle of our Isabella Jones who bought 55 and 56 Blessington St from Robert Courtenay Vance.

 I wondered if Robert Courtenay Vance, the vendor of 55 and 56 Blessington Street was a relation of our Isabella Jones.

The Vance Family:
Dr. James Vance of Summerhill, Dublin, married Mary Ann Shaw in 1799 in St. James, Dublin.  Amongst their children were Thomas Shaw Vance, born 1805, Richard Ephraim Vance born 1815, William Shaw Vance, and Dr. James Vance born circa 1807.
The younger Dr. James Vance, an apothecary of 10 Suffolk St., married Mary Alicia Courtenay/Courtney in St. Thomas, Dublin, on 24th August 1841.  The wedding was witnessed by his brother, William Shaw Vance.
According to a rivate contributor to the LDS site, the bride, Mary Alicia Courtney, had been born in Mallow, Co. Cork, in 1809 to a solicitor named either Thomas or Robert Courtenay and to his wife, Sarah. However, I recently accessed a deed (1841-17-173) in the Registry of Deeds which detailed the marriage settlement of James Vanced and Mary Alicia Courtenay.  The deed confirms that Mary Alicia was living at Lower Gardiner Street at the time of her marriage, and this seems to confirm that she was the daughter of Robert Courtenay, solicitor, and Eliza Hudson who were living in Lr Gardiner Street at this time. Robert Courtenay was the son of Thomas Courtenay, Shearman, who was admitted to the Freedom of Dublin in 1789.  
Another of the witnesses to the wedding in 1841 was Joshua Pasley, and a son of Robert Courtenay and Eliza Hudson was christened as Joshua Pasley Courtenay.  Joshua Pasley was closely involved with the phlanthropist, Thomas Pleasants (his cousin), who had founded the Stove Tenters House in the Liberties in 1814, which provided indoor facilities for the drying of woollens and other fabrics in poor weather;  prior to the foundation of the Stove Tenters House, those involved in fabric manufacture in the Liberties area of the city would find themselves destitute during the winter or during spells of inclement weather.  Thomas Pleasants and his cousin, Joshua Pasley, were also involved with the foundation of the Meath Hospital. Was this the Joshua Pasley who witnessed Mary Alicia Courtenay's wedding, or was it a younger relation of his?Joshua Pasley Courtenay,  probably named after Joshua Pasley, had been born in about 1836 to Robert Courtenay and Eliza Hudson.
If Mary Alicia Courtenay was, indeed the daughter of Robert Courtenay of Lower Gardiner Street, then her son, Robert Courtenay Vance was the 2nd cousin of our Isabella Jones.
The only later record of Mary Alicia Vance, née Courtenay, that I can find is in the records of the Cuffe Street Savings Bank where Mary Alicia Vance of 10 Suffolk Street was mentioned as a depositor in 1851.  Later, the Voters list for Dublin, compiled in 1865, noted James Vance and Richard Ephraim Vance at the same address.
In 1869,  properties belonging to Richard Ephraim Vance (and also to Paul Askin, Emer and Susanna Harte, and to Edward Richard Caroline) were put up for sale in the Emcumbered Estates Court.  The properties concerned were plots of building ground on the North Strand and a house at 29 Lower Abbey Street.)

Robert Courtenay Vance, who was the vendor of 55 and 56 Blessington Street, had been born in Dublin in about 1849 to James Vance and Mary Alicia Courtenay.  In 1884 in Rathdown (which is south Dublin and north Wicklow) Robert Courtenay Vance married Isabella Grogan, who had been born in Dublin in 1862 to Edwin Grogan and Isabella Courtenay, who was the daughter of Robert and Eliza Courtenay - the bride and groom were, therefore, first cousins - I had to scribble out a chart to figure these people out!
Our Isabella Jones was, therefore, related to both Robert Courtenay Vance and his wife Isabella Grogan.

What of the second vendor of 55 and 56 Blessington Street, Caroline Frances Vance?    This was Caroline Frances  Martin, the daughter of a clergyman who emigrated to Canada later, Nicholas Columbine Martin.  Caroline Frances Martin married Dr. James Vance of Rathdrum, Wicklow, on October 6th 1870.  Dr. James Vance of Rathdrum was the son of Dr. James Vance and Mary Alicia Courtenay of 10 Suffolk Street.
Amongst the children of Dr. James Vance of Rathdrum and Caroline Frances were James born 1871, Henry Nicholas Martin Vance born 1872, Richard Ephraim Vance born 1874 and Mary Alicia Courtenay Vance born 1875.    A daughter, Ethel Caroline Vance, was born to the couple in Dublin at 57 Harcourt Street in 1884.
Caroline Frances Vance was, therefore, the sister-in-law of Robert Courtenay Vance, being married to his brother James.

Timeline of these intermarriages:

1)  Dr. James Vance of Dublin married Mary Alicia Courtenay/Courtney in 1841 in Dublin.  A marriage deed of 1840, drawn up a year before her marriage to James Vance, gave an address of Lower Gardiner Street for Mary Alicia Courtenay, which seems to confirm that she was the daughter of Robert Courtenay, solicitor of Lower Gardiner Street, and of his wife, Eliza Hudson.

2)  Edwin Grogan married Isabella Courtenay, daughter of Robert Courtenay and Eliza Hudson, in Dublin in 1861.   The wedding was witnessed by Robert Courtenay and James Vance.  James Vance was Isabella's brother-in-law, married to her older sister, Mary Alicia.

3)  Elizabeth Jane Grogan of Garville Place, Rathgar, and sister of Edwin Grogan, married William Courtenay, the son of Robert Courtenay and Eliza Hudson, in about 1863.

4)  Isabella Grogan, the daughter of Edwin Grogan and Isabella Courtenay, married Robert Courtenay Vance, the son of James Vance and Mary Alicia Courtenay, in Dublin in 1884.

5)  Mary Isabella Courtenay, the daughter of William Courtenay and Elizabeth Jane Grogan, married Rev. Gerald Ivory King Moriarty, in 1896.  She was known to be the cousin of Isabella Grogan.