This post concerns further details on Courtenay intermarriages. I'll add to it if I find more.
During a recent visit to the Registry of Deeds in Henrietta Street, Dublin, I came across a deed of assignment dated 24th November 1890.
This concerned the sale of numbers 55 and 56 Blessington Street. Our maternal great-great grandmother, Isabella Jones, was buying the property - the deed named her as Isabella Jones, of 9 Middle Mountjoy Street, wife of Charles Jones. Charles and Isabella Jones lived at 56 Blessington Street from 1890.
Isabella was buying the property from two people - Caroline Frances Vance of 2 Upper Beechwood Avenue, and Robert Courtenay Vance of 56 Dawson Street.
On the same day, a separate deed detailed the mortgage of £300 which she acquired from the Dublin Mutual Benefit Building Society. This was one of the earliest properties which she took on; by the time of her death in 1940, she owned about thirty separate houses around the city. We had assumed that she had been compelled to turn to property development following the death of her husband in 1893, but she had evidently caught the property bug much earlier than that.
Isabella was the daughter of Emily Courtenay, and the granddaughter of Frederick and Mary Courtenay who lived at 27 Wellington St, as did a Francis Courtenay, who was admitted to the Freemen of Dublin by birth, being the son of Thomas Courtenay, Shearman. Another individual admitted to the Freemen of Dublin was Robert Courtenay Junior 22 of Ranelagh Road, admitted as a grandson of the same Thomas Courtenay, Shearman; Robert was the son of Robert Courtenay Senior, solicitor of Lower Gardiner Street. Also admitted, later, as a grandson of Thomas Courtenay, Shearman, was his grandson, Thomas Courtenay of the Royal Hospital, who appears to be a son of Frederick Courtenay of 27 Wellington Street and, therefore, an uncle of our Isabella Jones who bought 55 and 56 Blessington St from Robert Courtenay Vance.
I wondered if Robert Courtenay Vance, the vendor of 55 and 56 Blessington Street was a relation of our Isabella Jones.
The Vance Family:
Dr. James Vance of Summerhill, Dublin, married Mary Ann Shaw in 1799 in St. James, Dublin. Amongst their children were Thomas Shaw Vance, born 1805, Richard Ephraim Vance born 1815, William Shaw Vance, and Dr. James Vance born circa 1807.
The younger Dr. James Vance, an apothecary of 10 Suffolk St., married Mary Alicia Courtenay/Courtney in St. Thomas, Dublin, on 24th August 1841. The wedding was witnessed by his brother, William Shaw Vance.
According to a rivate contributor to the LDS site, the bride, Mary Alicia Courtney, had been born in Mallow, Co. Cork, in 1809 to a solicitor named either Thomas or Robert Courtenay and to his wife, Sarah. However, I recently accessed a deed (1841-17-173) in the Registry of Deeds which detailed the marriage settlement of James Vanced and Mary Alicia Courtenay. The deed confirms that Mary Alicia was living at Lower Gardiner Street at the time of her marriage, and this seems to confirm that she was the daughter of Robert Courtenay, solicitor, and Eliza Hudson who were living in Lr Gardiner Street at this time. Robert Courtenay was the son of Thomas Courtenay, Shearman, who was admitted to the Freedom of Dublin in 1789.
Another of the witnesses to the wedding in 1841 was Joshua Pasley, and a son of Robert Courtenay and Eliza Hudson was christened as Joshua Pasley Courtenay. Joshua Pasley was closely involved with the phlanthropist, Thomas Pleasants (his cousin), who had founded the Stove Tenters House in the Liberties in 1814, which provided indoor facilities for the drying of woollens and other fabrics in poor weather; prior to the foundation of the Stove Tenters House, those involved in fabric manufacture in the Liberties area of the city would find themselves destitute during the winter or during spells of inclement weather. Thomas Pleasants and his cousin, Joshua Pasley, were also involved with the foundation of the Meath Hospital. Was this the Joshua Pasley who witnessed Mary Alicia Courtenay's wedding, or was it a younger relation of his?Joshua Pasley Courtenay, probably named after Joshua Pasley, had been born in about 1836 to Robert Courtenay and Eliza Hudson.
If Mary Alicia Courtenay was, indeed the daughter of Robert Courtenay of Lower Gardiner Street, then her son, Robert Courtenay Vance was the 2nd cousin of our Isabella Jones.
The only later record of Mary Alicia Vance, née Courtenay, that I can find is in the records of the Cuffe Street Savings Bank where Mary Alicia Vance of 10 Suffolk Street was mentioned as a depositor in 1851. Later, the Voters list for Dublin, compiled in 1865, noted James Vance and Richard Ephraim Vance at the same address.
In 1869, properties belonging to Richard Ephraim Vance (and also to Paul Askin, Emer and Susanna Harte, and to Edward Richard Caroline) were put up for sale in the Emcumbered Estates Court. The properties concerned were plots of building ground on the North Strand and a house at 29 Lower Abbey Street.)
Robert Courtenay Vance, who was the vendor of 55 and 56 Blessington Street, had been born in Dublin in about 1849 to James Vance and Mary Alicia Courtenay. In 1884 in Rathdown (which is south Dublin and north Wicklow) Robert Courtenay Vance married Isabella Grogan, who had been born in Dublin in 1862 to Edwin Grogan and Isabella Courtenay, who was the daughter of Robert and Eliza Courtenay - the bride and groom were, therefore, first cousins - I had to scribble out a chart to figure these people out!
Our Isabella Jones was, therefore, related to both Robert Courtenay Vance and his wife Isabella Grogan.
What of the second vendor of 55 and 56 Blessington Street, Caroline Frances Vance? This was Caroline Frances Martin, the daughter of a clergyman who emigrated to Canada later, Nicholas Columbine Martin. Caroline Frances Martin married Dr. James Vance of Rathdrum, Wicklow, on October 6th 1870. Dr. James Vance of Rathdrum was the son of Dr. James Vance and Mary Alicia Courtenay of 10 Suffolk Street.
Amongst the children of Dr. James Vance of Rathdrum and Caroline Frances were James born 1871, Henry Nicholas Martin Vance born 1872, Richard Ephraim Vance born 1874 and Mary Alicia Courtenay Vance born 1875. A daughter, Ethel Caroline Vance, was born to the couple in Dublin at 57 Harcourt Street in 1884.
Caroline Frances Vance was, therefore, the sister-in-law of Robert Courtenay Vance, being married to his brother James.
Timeline of these intermarriages:
1) Dr. James Vance of Dublin married Mary Alicia Courtenay/Courtney in 1841 in Dublin. A marriage deed of 1840, drawn up a year before her marriage to James Vance, gave an address of Lower Gardiner Street for Mary Alicia Courtenay, which seems to confirm that she was the daughter of Robert Courtenay, solicitor of Lower Gardiner Street, and of his wife, Eliza Hudson.
2) Edwin Grogan married Isabella Courtenay, daughter of Robert Courtenay and Eliza Hudson, in Dublin in 1861. The wedding was witnessed by Robert Courtenay and James Vance. James Vance was Isabella's brother-in-law, married to her older sister, Mary Alicia.
3) Elizabeth Jane Grogan of Garville Place, Rathgar, and sister of Edwin Grogan, married William Courtenay, the son of Robert Courtenay and Eliza Hudson, in about 1863.
4) Isabella Grogan, the daughter of Edwin Grogan and Isabella Courtenay, married Robert Courtenay Vance, the son of James Vance and Mary Alicia Courtenay, in Dublin in 1884.
5) Mary Isabella Courtenay, the daughter of William Courtenay and Elizabeth Jane Grogan, married Rev. Gerald Ivory King Moriarty, in 1896. She was known to be the cousin of Isabella Grogan.
During a recent visit to the Registry of Deeds in Henrietta Street, Dublin, I came across a deed of assignment dated 24th November 1890.
This concerned the sale of numbers 55 and 56 Blessington Street. Our maternal great-great grandmother, Isabella Jones, was buying the property - the deed named her as Isabella Jones, of 9 Middle Mountjoy Street, wife of Charles Jones. Charles and Isabella Jones lived at 56 Blessington Street from 1890.
Isabella was buying the property from two people - Caroline Frances Vance of 2 Upper Beechwood Avenue, and Robert Courtenay Vance of 56 Dawson Street.
On the same day, a separate deed detailed the mortgage of £300 which she acquired from the Dublin Mutual Benefit Building Society. This was one of the earliest properties which she took on; by the time of her death in 1940, she owned about thirty separate houses around the city. We had assumed that she had been compelled to turn to property development following the death of her husband in 1893, but she had evidently caught the property bug much earlier than that.
Isabella was the daughter of Emily Courtenay, and the granddaughter of Frederick and Mary Courtenay who lived at 27 Wellington St, as did a Francis Courtenay, who was admitted to the Freemen of Dublin by birth, being the son of Thomas Courtenay, Shearman. Another individual admitted to the Freemen of Dublin was Robert Courtenay Junior 22 of Ranelagh Road, admitted as a grandson of the same Thomas Courtenay, Shearman; Robert was the son of Robert Courtenay Senior, solicitor of Lower Gardiner Street. Also admitted, later, as a grandson of Thomas Courtenay, Shearman, was his grandson, Thomas Courtenay of the Royal Hospital, who appears to be a son of Frederick Courtenay of 27 Wellington Street and, therefore, an uncle of our Isabella Jones who bought 55 and 56 Blessington St from Robert Courtenay Vance.
I wondered if Robert Courtenay Vance, the vendor of 55 and 56 Blessington Street was a relation of our Isabella Jones.
The Vance Family:
Dr. James Vance of Summerhill, Dublin, married Mary Ann Shaw in 1799 in St. James, Dublin. Amongst their children were Thomas Shaw Vance, born 1805, Richard Ephraim Vance born 1815, William Shaw Vance, and Dr. James Vance born circa 1807.
The younger Dr. James Vance, an apothecary of 10 Suffolk St., married Mary Alicia Courtenay/Courtney in St. Thomas, Dublin, on 24th August 1841. The wedding was witnessed by his brother, William Shaw Vance.
According to a rivate contributor to the LDS site, the bride, Mary Alicia Courtney, had been born in Mallow, Co. Cork, in 1809 to a solicitor named either Thomas or Robert Courtenay and to his wife, Sarah. However, I recently accessed a deed (1841-17-173) in the Registry of Deeds which detailed the marriage settlement of James Vanced and Mary Alicia Courtenay. The deed confirms that Mary Alicia was living at Lower Gardiner Street at the time of her marriage, and this seems to confirm that she was the daughter of Robert Courtenay, solicitor, and Eliza Hudson who were living in Lr Gardiner Street at this time. Robert Courtenay was the son of Thomas Courtenay, Shearman, who was admitted to the Freedom of Dublin in 1789.
Another of the witnesses to the wedding in 1841 was Joshua Pasley, and a son of Robert Courtenay and Eliza Hudson was christened as Joshua Pasley Courtenay. Joshua Pasley was closely involved with the phlanthropist, Thomas Pleasants (his cousin), who had founded the Stove Tenters House in the Liberties in 1814, which provided indoor facilities for the drying of woollens and other fabrics in poor weather; prior to the foundation of the Stove Tenters House, those involved in fabric manufacture in the Liberties area of the city would find themselves destitute during the winter or during spells of inclement weather. Thomas Pleasants and his cousin, Joshua Pasley, were also involved with the foundation of the Meath Hospital. Was this the Joshua Pasley who witnessed Mary Alicia Courtenay's wedding, or was it a younger relation of his?Joshua Pasley Courtenay, probably named after Joshua Pasley, had been born in about 1836 to Robert Courtenay and Eliza Hudson.
If Mary Alicia Courtenay was, indeed the daughter of Robert Courtenay of Lower Gardiner Street, then her son, Robert Courtenay Vance was the 2nd cousin of our Isabella Jones.
The only later record of Mary Alicia Vance, née Courtenay, that I can find is in the records of the Cuffe Street Savings Bank where Mary Alicia Vance of 10 Suffolk Street was mentioned as a depositor in 1851. Later, the Voters list for Dublin, compiled in 1865, noted James Vance and Richard Ephraim Vance at the same address.
In 1869, properties belonging to Richard Ephraim Vance (and also to Paul Askin, Emer and Susanna Harte, and to Edward Richard Caroline) were put up for sale in the Emcumbered Estates Court. The properties concerned were plots of building ground on the North Strand and a house at 29 Lower Abbey Street.)
Robert Courtenay Vance, who was the vendor of 55 and 56 Blessington Street, had been born in Dublin in about 1849 to James Vance and Mary Alicia Courtenay. In 1884 in Rathdown (which is south Dublin and north Wicklow) Robert Courtenay Vance married Isabella Grogan, who had been born in Dublin in 1862 to Edwin Grogan and Isabella Courtenay, who was the daughter of Robert and Eliza Courtenay - the bride and groom were, therefore, first cousins - I had to scribble out a chart to figure these people out!
Our Isabella Jones was, therefore, related to both Robert Courtenay Vance and his wife Isabella Grogan.
What of the second vendor of 55 and 56 Blessington Street, Caroline Frances Vance? This was Caroline Frances Martin, the daughter of a clergyman who emigrated to Canada later, Nicholas Columbine Martin. Caroline Frances Martin married Dr. James Vance of Rathdrum, Wicklow, on October 6th 1870. Dr. James Vance of Rathdrum was the son of Dr. James Vance and Mary Alicia Courtenay of 10 Suffolk Street.
Amongst the children of Dr. James Vance of Rathdrum and Caroline Frances were James born 1871, Henry Nicholas Martin Vance born 1872, Richard Ephraim Vance born 1874 and Mary Alicia Courtenay Vance born 1875. A daughter, Ethel Caroline Vance, was born to the couple in Dublin at 57 Harcourt Street in 1884.
Caroline Frances Vance was, therefore, the sister-in-law of Robert Courtenay Vance, being married to his brother James.
Timeline of these intermarriages:
1) Dr. James Vance of Dublin married Mary Alicia Courtenay/Courtney in 1841 in Dublin. A marriage deed of 1840, drawn up a year before her marriage to James Vance, gave an address of Lower Gardiner Street for Mary Alicia Courtenay, which seems to confirm that she was the daughter of Robert Courtenay, solicitor of Lower Gardiner Street, and of his wife, Eliza Hudson.
2) Edwin Grogan married Isabella Courtenay, daughter of Robert Courtenay and Eliza Hudson, in Dublin in 1861. The wedding was witnessed by Robert Courtenay and James Vance. James Vance was Isabella's brother-in-law, married to her older sister, Mary Alicia.
3) Elizabeth Jane Grogan of Garville Place, Rathgar, and sister of Edwin Grogan, married William Courtenay, the son of Robert Courtenay and Eliza Hudson, in about 1863.
4) Isabella Grogan, the daughter of Edwin Grogan and Isabella Courtenay, married Robert Courtenay Vance, the son of James Vance and Mary Alicia Courtenay, in Dublin in 1884.
5) Mary Isabella Courtenay, the daughter of William Courtenay and Elizabeth Jane Grogan, married Rev. Gerald Ivory King Moriarty, in 1896. She was known to be the cousin of Isabella Grogan.